(Lighter thread): Who should re-open first, churches or AA meetings?

[Cow Poke]

Meanwhile ----

THE EXPERTS HAVE DECIDED IT IS NOW SAFE TO HAVE CHURCH - EVEN WITH LARGE NUMBERS AND SINGING AND 'CONGREGATIONAL PRAYER'!!!!



(as long as you do it in the paint isle at Home Depot)

[Sparko]

Because people feel they have a spiritual need and that is how they satisfy that need.

And what is wrong with that?

Is that any different from people going to the grocery store because they feel a physical need to eat and that is how they satisfy that? Or going out to restaurants, which many are doing now, also?

[Sparko]

Trump can't force churches to re-open, Sparko, nor can he tell Governors how to run the states. DO is right, it's red meat for his evangelical base, Trump couldn't care less, otherwise.

He isn't forcing them to open, he said he is going to force the governors to ALLOW churches to open. The choice to open or not is up to each church, depending on their circumstances.

Now whether he can force governors to allow them to reopen is a matter of debate. The first amendment says he can.

[Sparko]

Why do you atheists even care about Christians going to church? If they all catch COVID-19 and croak, that is just that many fewer Christians around, amiright?

[shunyadragon]

The evidence for which you will of course provide, right?

Already done.

The evidence for which you will of course provide for any significant crime by Aubrey, or the others that walked through, right?

Still waiting . . .

[Cow Poke]

Why do you atheists even care about Christians going to church? If they all catch COVID-19 and croak, that is just that many fewer Christians around, amiright?

But that would be fewer Christians to antagonize!

[Cow Poke]

This was documented by the home owner.

No, it was not.

[shunyadragon]

No, it was not.

Yes it was.

[shunyadragon]

Source: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242847301.html

How did 2 people with COVID-19 infect 35? This church offers dramatic lesson, CDC says

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[Cow Poke]

Yes it was.

Wrong.

[shunyadragon]

Wrong.

Source: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242847301.html

How did 2 people with COVID-19 infect 35? This church offers dramatic lesson, CDC says

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[Cow Poke]

[cite=https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242847301.html]

You don't even know what you're arguing against.

[shunyadragon]

You don't even know what you're arguing against.

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/church-oregon-largest-coronavirus-outbreak-superspreading-2020-6

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[shunyadragon]

Source: https://wchstv.com/news/local/covid-19-outbreaks-reported-at-five-churches-in-west-virginia

Five COVID-19 outbreaks reported at churches in West Virginia

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[mikewhitney]

We have not been told how many of these people tested negative before the church events. So we cannot know how many people transitioned to a positive result.

We don't know how many of the tests were true positives.

Nor do we know whether these church groups "violated" social distancing.

We are not told which people died and whether these people had other conditions that were the likely cause of death.

We don't know if the case trackers are legitimate. Plus, we have an improper intrusion of these workers into the church.

There just are not any useful facts to make this of an interest beyond mere propaganda.

If the virus has not dissipated after 3 months of lock down, we just need to get back to normal while recognizing some risk of living with other people. We have to face the fact that this economic shutdown was the most stupid thing done since the time leading to the worldwide flood. Policy that has not worked for 90 days will not work by prolonging it further.