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    (Lighter thread): Who should re-open first, churches or AA meetings?

    Let's keep this thread (relatively) lighter than the others.

    Curious which of these two facilities you consider more warranted to open first (if you can only pick one).

    For me, as someone who has struggled with alcohol in the past, obviously I'd say AA meetings since I understand how vital they are to those who rely on them.

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    Interesting, because in my area, many AA and other recovery programs are actually held in Churches.

    AND.... why does it have to be either / or?
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    You could have asked whether bars should be opened or churches.

    I saw a youtube video of a bar reopening in Ireland. It was a comedy skit where the guys were cautiously approaching the bar as if it were still prohibited.

    Someone made a short version of it. The long version ... just say they should have only had the short version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Interesting, because in my area, many AA and other recovery programs are actually held in Churches.
    That's probably true everywhere. At least that's my experience as well.


    AND.... why does it have to be either / or?
    Because I'm trying to understand why the believers on here are so insistent on the need to re-open churches ASAP. I'm trying to understand if they actually place them on the same level as AA (I should have stipulated that we accept AA as an effective substance abuse program for the purposes of this thread) given that the lockdown is presenting something of a worst case scenario for those struggling with addiction.

    No wrong answers here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    Because I'm trying to understand why the believers on here are so insistent on the need to re-open churches ASAP. I'm trying to understand if they actually place them on the same level as AA (I should have stipulated that we accept AA as an effective substance abuse program for the purposes of this thread) given that the lockdown is presenting something of a worst case scenario for those struggling with addiction.

    No wrong answers here.
    If you change ASAP to ASASAP (As soon as safe and practical), that's me! I haven't been in a big hurry, but following my State's guidelines, and even exceeding them, we opened as soon as "safe and practical".

    Meanwhile, our support services (recovery) were handled by phone, skype, zoom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    That's probably true everywhere. At least that's my experience as well.



    Because I'm trying to understand why the believers on here are so insistent on the need to re-open churches ASAP. I'm trying to understand if they actually place them on the same level as AA (I should have stipulated that we accept AA as an effective substance abuse program for the purposes of this thread) given that the lockdown is presenting something of a worst case scenario for those struggling with addiction.

    No wrong answers here.
    I thought we had gone through this in the other thread.

    Aside from a few, who you named, who has been advocating that churches open immediately? Broad brush, once again.

    That's probably not as light as you'd like, so, to lighten it up a bit, I'm going to get a haircut Saturday morning. Because, here, stores are allowed to reopen and so is everything else as long as distancing and cleaning procedures are put into place.

    Including churches, as long as less than 50 people are present and social distancing can be practiced.

    And do you know what the very first things to open were here last week? Golf courses.

    Which is ludicrous to me, but so was keeping liquor and cannabis stores being allowed to remain open when everything else was shut down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    I thought we had gone through this in the other thread.

    Aside from a few, who you named, who has been advocating that churches open immediately? Broad brush, once again.
    There's not too many regular posters on here. Those four make up a large fraction of the believers on here.


    Which is ludicrous to me, but so was keeping liquor and cannabis stores being allowed to remain open when everything else was shut down.
    Initially I felt that way about liquor stores as well. Then I was reminded that severe alcohol withdrawal literally will kill you :).

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    The choices in your poll are rather restrictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    There's not too many regular posters on here. Those four make up a large fraction of the believers on here.



    Initially I felt that way about liquor stores as well. Then I was reminded that severe alcohol withdrawal literally will kill you :).
    Right, we don't want to overwhelm ERs with alcoholics going withdrawal at a time like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    Let's keep this thread (relatively) lighter than the others.

    Curious which of these two facilities you consider more warranted to open first (if you can only pick one).

    For me, as someone who has struggled with alcohol in the past, obviously I'd say AA meetings since I understand how vital they are to those who rely on them.
    I think there should have been a third option of neither, until it is safe to do so.

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