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  • #31
    Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
    What is your point? You don't like reality? It sounds like the coroner was the one just arrested for storing body parts in his storage units.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
      Get real.

      It depends if the lack of evidence is politically motivated. Politics can make people hide things, if required, or to say things that are not true. In this imperfect world, there are people that are untouchable.
      Like Donald Trump as President, ah . . . until he leaves office..
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
        Jay Sekulow made a big deal the other day about how the president is above the law the other day until he leaves office.
        Source?
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
          What is your point? You don't like reality. It sounds like the coroner was the one just arrested for storing body parts in his storage units.
          If there is a *specific reason* to question the police investigation then I'm all ears.
          If there is a *specific reason* to question the medical examiner's conclusions I'm all ears.
          If there is a *specific reason* to doubt the security camera footage then I'm all ears.

          If all you've got is vague misgivings then take a hike :).

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          • #35
            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            Like Donald Trump as President.
            I don't know if he is behind corrupt things or murders. He has been investigated and not found guilty of stuff. The House of Representatives seemed to do everything they could to find him guilty. If you are saying the House of Representatives are corrupt, I probably could agree with you on this.

            I don't see any benefit politically or personally for him for pushing for more of an investigation.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
              I don't know if he is behind corrupt things or murders. He has been investigated and not found guilty of stuff. The House of Representatives seemed to do everything they could to find him guilty. If you are saying the House of Representatives are corrupt, I probably could agree with you on this.

              I don't see any benefit politically or personally for him for pushing for more of an investigation.
              I was not referring to the House of Representatives, I was referring to Donald Trump.

              For example: He has also been found guilty of his involvement in the 'Trump University,' and still faces law suits for his involvement.
              Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-26-2020, 08:53 PM.
              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

              go with the flow the river knows . . .

              Frank

              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                I was not referring to the House of Representatives, I was referring to Donald Trump.

                For example: He has also been found guilty of his involvement in the 'Trump University,' and still faces law suits for his involvement.
                Let's please stick with facts - Trump's CIVIL suit was settled by a payment of $25 million dollars. He was not "found guilty". The proper term would be "found liable".
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Let's please stick with facts - Trump's CIVIL suit was settled by a payment of $25 million dollars. He was not "found guilty". The proper term would be "found liable".
                  Found liable is guilty of fraud. Trump does resort to millions to bail himself out.

                  Source: https://apnews.com/43033e7cb9974faf879b51251c3a0d07/$25M-deal-over-Trump-University-fraud-lawsuits-moves-forward



                  $25M deal over Trump University fraud and more lawsuits than these moves forward

                  By SUDHIN THANAWALA
                  February 6, 2018

                  SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld an agreement requiring President Donald Trump to pay $25 million to settle lawsuits accusing his now-defunct Trump University of fraud.

                  The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected an effort by student Sherri Simpson to opt out of the deal and pursue her own lawsuit.

                  The move would have derailed the settlement resolving lawsuits that claimed the university pressured students to spend tens of thousands of dollars but then failed to deliver on promises to teach them how to be successful in real estate.

                  Simpson didn’t drop out of the agreement initially and claimed she had the right to do so before it was finalized. A three-judge panel of the court unanimously disagreed, saying neither a notice to affected students nor due process gave her a second chance to opt out.

                  The court also said U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel had ample reason to approve the deal.

                  “Both classes of plaintiffs would have faced significant hurdles had they proceeded to trial, including the difficulty of prevailing in a jury trial against either the president-elect (if the trial had proceeded as scheduled) or the sitting president,” Judge Jacqueline Nguyen wrote for the panel.

                  An attorney for Simpson referred comment to another attorney, who did not immediately respond.

                  The two class-action lawsuits and a civil lawsuit by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman followed Trump throughout the presidential campaign.

                  Trump fueled the controversy by repeatedly insinuating that Curiel’s Mexican heritage made him biased against Trump. Trump had vowed never to settle but said after the election that he didn’t have time for a trial.

                  The president did not acknowledge any wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement.

                  In a statement Tuesday, Scheiderman said the 9th Circuit ruling “means that victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will soon receive the $25 million in relief they deserve.”

                  Plaintiffs’ attorneys have said about 3,730 people will get at least 90 percent of their money back under the deal.

                  © Copyright Original Source


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                  Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-26-2020, 09:35 PM.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Found liable is guilty of fraud. Trump does resort to millions to bail himself out.
                    No, it's a civil suit, Shuny. There is no declaration of guilt. Perhaps you don't comprehend the concept of "settlement". And I'm the one who told you about the $25 million.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Let's please stick with facts - Trump's CIVIL suit was settled by a payment of $25 million dollars. He was not "found guilty". The proper term would be "found liable".
                      Does this make the fact our president purposefully created a scam and took money from people without giving them anything useful in return any less criminal, any less despicable? Does the fact our president ran a con that literally stole millions of dollars from people not mean anything at all? That alone should have him sitting on a street corner in rags begging alms, not sitting in luxury as president of the United States of America.

                      One thing to keep in mind - you, we, all of us are next! The biggest con he's ever pulled off so far is the one he has going right now.
                      Last edited by oxmixmudd; 05-27-2020, 12:20 AM.
                      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                      • #41
                        Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning

                        Looks like Trump might want to find a new place to share his lies:

                        President Trump tweeted: "There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent."

                        Twitter put a warning label under the post and a subsequent tweet under its new policy on misleading information.
                        Twitter's link directs users to a page on which Mr Trump's claims about mail-in ballots are described as "unsubstantiated". The social media company cites reporting on the issue by CNN, the Washington Post and others.

                        This is followed by a "what you need to know" section where Twitter corrects what it says are false claims by the US president.

                        The social media company had pledged to increase the warning labels under false or misleading information on its site - but it has been slow to take steps against the US president.
                        Note the irony in the first sentence:

                        Following the firm's decision to label his tweets as misleading, he claimed on Twitter that the company was stifling free speech and that he wouldn't allow it. But Twitter as a private company gets to set its own rules for what happens on its platform.

                        The trouble for many was that up until Tuesday the firm didn't seem to be enforcing its rules when it came to the US president or other global leaders.
                        And from the analysis on what Twitter is doing:

                        It sees the new labelling system as a way to balance both the desire to allow Twitter users including the president to say what they like, while also giving readers protection against misleading claims. The strategy mostly worked with tweets about Covid-19.
                        https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52815552
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • #42
                          I'm glad that we have a large private company taking on the heavy responsibility of telling me what is and isn't true. I appreciate their sacrificing profits in order to put in place a system that will relieve me of the burden of making my own evaluations of things public figures say.

                          I sleep more peacefully knowing Twitter is so altruistically looking out for my best interests.
                          ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DivineOb View Post
                            Surely it is illegal to facilitate libel.
                            Indeed, for any normal publisher (e.g. newspaper) it would be illegal to print libelous statements. It often gets a bit legally vague for mass-market web platforms whether the publisher is the person publishing on that platform or the web platform itself. Usually what seems to be legally required of such mass platforms is that the web provider have a policy that if a problematic post is brought to their attention they will deal with it.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #44
                              A large percentage of the population seems prone to believing falsehoods they see spouted on these platforms, so it seems pretty clearly in the public interest to take any easily available steps to correct that. Sticking a link to the truth/correction beside the person's false statement seems a non-invasive way of warning the gullible that there might be an issue with the claim. Intelligent people can make up their own minds of course, but people who were about to take the claim on faith can thus be informed that perhaps they should think twice before believing it.

                              Lawmakers seem to have made it clear to Twitter and Facebook that if they didn't do something to stem the flood of falsehoods on their platforms, there would be some sort of regulation requiring them to. So we are beginning to see them implement systems to try and prevent laws being passed.

                              Facebook has dubiously employed a pretty extreme and dodgy right wing group to help do their fact-checking. So I'm not expecting much in terms of quality from them. It will be interesting to see if we end up needing fact checking of the fact checkers, or rules around who is a valid fact checker.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                                Donald J Trump, President of the US, suggested in a tweet, that Joe Scarborough, a Republican critic of his,
                                was involved in the murder of a one time staffer of his who had heart problems, apparently lost
                                consciousness, fell, and hit her head which ended up being fatal.
                                The angry husband of the deceased requested that twitter delete the post, saying that had anyone but the president
                                posted that they would be banned. Twitter refused to delete it.

                                http://deadline.com/2020/05/donald-t...is-1202943081/

                                sports.yahoo.com/even-gop-congressman-sick-trumps-144200875.html

                                Will Trump supporters ever recognize what an immoral, disgusting, sociopathic narcisist of a human being it is
                                that they are supporting?
                                So Trump dished out what the MSM has been doing for 4 years, namely spreading unsubstantiated rumors and made up out of whole cloth malicious gossip and hear-say, and naturally the left loses it when it is done to them.

                                And after the collusion delusion was repeatedly exposed as a hoax, after Trump was repeatedly called a traitor who sold out the country by folks like Scarborough, did any of them apologize? No. Not one. In fact they actually congratulated themselves on what a terrific job they had done covering it Worse, they continued employing the same tactics.

                                So while I don't know why he bothers, and I really wish he wouldn't, I can understand how turn about is fair play. The fact is that Scarborough and his ilk aren't victims but rather bullies getting a taste of their own medicine.



                                PS: Scarborough hasn't been a Republican for quite awhile now though he only officially left the party a few years ago.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

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