This article is a must read for anyone seeking to stop Trump from securing office a second time. It is about the billion dollar campaign being waged to spread disinformation. This is a campaign being waged by the Trump campaign to "flood the zone" with disinformation and continue the erosion of the media that Trump has been engaged in since he first announced his candidacy.
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The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasTags: None
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis article is a must read for anyone seeking to stop Trump from securing office a second time. It is about the billion dollar campaign being waged to spread disinformation. This is a campaign being waged by the Trump campaign to "flood the zone" with disinformation and continue the erosion of the media that Trump has been engaged in since he first announced his candidacy.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostLike flooding the zone with the Russian hoax?
And Mueller was clear: he did not find enough evidence to push forward with an accusation, and he wouldn't have pushed forward anyway if he had because of the DOJ posture on indicting a sitting president. He was also clear that his report was not intended to "exonerate" Trump. He left it to Congress and Congress did bupkus.
Personally, I think Trump is dirty and has only been left in place because his base is rabidly devoted to him, which means all other elected Republicans are in fear of him, which means they are bending over backwards to protect him. The Republican party has abandoned its soul. I suspect it will never regain it.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seanD View PostDidn't you already create this thread?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostIMO, Trump brought "the Russian Hoax" on himself. Mueller was tasked to determine if there was Russian interference in the 2016 election - which he determined existed. So "Russia" was not a hoax. However, it was clear that their interference was to put their thumbs of the scale in favor of Trump, leaving open the question "did Trump know and was he involved?" Trump threw every obstacle possible at the investigation and did everything he could to undermine it, raising the question "what is he hiding?" Given Trump's history of malfeasance and corruption, and he numerous connections found between Russia and the Trump campaign, plus Trump's business interests in Russia, it was a valid question.
And Mueller was clear: he did not find enough evidence to push forward with an accusation, and he wouldn't have pushed forward anyway if he had because of the DOJ posture on indicting a sitting president. He was also clear that his report was not intended to "exonerate" Trump. He left it to Congress and Congress did bupkus.
Personally, I think Trump is dirty and has only been left in place because his base is rabidly devoted to him, which means all other elected Republicans are in fear of him, which means they are bending over backwards to protect him. The Republican party has abandoned its soul. I suspect it will never regain it.
But yeah, Trump brought it on himself. It's all his fault. He should never have beaten the appointed heir to the Obamessiah's throne and spoil her coronation since it was "her turn."
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHe did not repeatedly encourage anyone to fire Comey and then use that firing as justification to ramp up the investigation.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI just heard about Silicon Valley billionaires planning a big campaign to use their technology to get Biden (haha. that's right. Biden) elected.
It sounds like this is pitting high-powered socialist billionaires against a freedom-promoting campaign by Trump.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTrump did not fabricate a fake dossier and then hand it over to corrupt officials who lied about it to the FISA court.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHe did not leak information about it to the press or many of the other (at the very least) extremely unethical stunts that Comey did. He did not repeatedly encourage anyone to fire Comey and then use that firing as justification to ramp up the investigation.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBut yeah, Trump brought it on himself. It's all his fault. He should never have beaten the appointed heir to the Obamessiah's throne and spoil her coronation since it was "her turn."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI just heard about Silicon Valley billionaires planning a big campaign to use their technology to get Biden (haha. that's right. Biden) elected.
It sounds like this is pitting high-powered socialist billionaires against a freedom-promoting campaign by Trump.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThey see him as their route to power. They realize that he'll be nothing but a figurehead and hope to help control his Administration and gain the power they could never be elected to.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostUmm...no. I don't know what the "silicon valley billionaires" are doing, but they have as much right to promote their chosen candidate as anyone else. If they set off on a disinformation campaign, however, they will be just as culpable as the Trump campaign.
Since when are you expecting the media to provide anything beyond disinformation? Do you remember the media-lies thread?
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis article is a must read for anyone seeking to stop Trump from securing office a second time. It is about the billion dollar campaign being waged to spread disinformation. This is a campaign being waged by the Trump campaign to "flood the zone" with disinformation and continue the erosion of the media that Trump has been engaged in since he first announced his candidacy.
The presidents reelection campaign was then in the midst of a multimillion-dollar ad blitz aimed at shaping Americans understanding of the recently launched impeachment proceedings. Thousands of micro-targeted ads had flooded the internet, portraying Trump as a heroic reformer cracking down on foreign corruption while Democrats plotted a coup. That this narrative bore little resemblance to reality seemed only to accelerate its spread. Right-wing websites amplified every claim. Pro-Trump forums teemed with conspiracy theories. An alternate information ecosystem was taking shape around the biggest news story in the country, and I wanted to see it from the inside.
The story that unfurled in my Facebook feed over the next several weeks was, at times, disorienting. There were days when I would watch, live on TV, an impeachment hearing filled with damning testimony about the presidents conduct, only to look at my phone later and find a slickly edited videoserved up by the Trump campaignthat used out-of-context clips to recast the same testimony as an exoneration. Wait, I caught myself wondering more than once, is that what happened today?
There's a lot of begging the question here. It's assumed that one narrative (that the impeachment hearings were a Democrat / corrupt official hatchet job etc) is correct, and the other narrative (Trump literally Hitler etc) is false. Assumed, but not argued.
One could respond that what was really happening to the writer is that they were hearing the truth at last, and this was what was discombobulating them, as they left their left-wing media bubble.
One could also respond that the article is merely a whine that Trump and his supporters are putting their arguments and opinions out there, and that's bad, because he's bad and evil. But to complain about that is undemocratic and unfair. And disrespectful to the public, who are capable (or should be in a democracy) of making their own minds up, either way.
In short, the article reads like someone who is upset that Trump et al dare play the same game the left media and the Democrats have been playing for quite some time. Well, boo hoo. Turn about is fair play....>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostNone of which actually happened. The dossier is not "fake," it has sections that are not confirmed and sections that are.
They presented it as a legitimate intelligence analysis when it was bought and paid for smear campaign by the DNC/Clinton campaign (which as Donna Brazile admitted were one and the same at the time)
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostIt was not handed over to "corrupt officials;" it was handed over to the FBI leadership
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Postand was one of several elements used to legally secure FISA warrants.
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSome of the process steps were not followed as closely as they should have been, and that was caught and addressed.
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostUmm...he actually fired Comey himself - or did you forget that?
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAnd Comey's violations of process mostly came after he was fired.
Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAnd yes - Trump brought it on himself.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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