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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Demanding due process is a legitimate gripe but the rest is B.S.
    I feel bad for the union. They have to defend them somehow. I fear for their families' safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Demanding due process is a legitimate gripe but the rest is B.S.
    I agree, though I suspect there will be less arguing whether due process was done and more Rules-Lawyering until they get rehired and the charges reduced due to a minor technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Void View Post
    I agree, though I suspect there will be less arguing whether due process was done and more Rules-Lawyering until they get rehired and the charges reduced due to a minor technicality.
    I seriously doubt this will ever go away or get treated as a minor technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertBerean View Post
    I feel bad for the union. They have to defend them somehow. I fear for their families' safety.
    Kind of like defense attorneys. They have to defend scum as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Void View Post
    ... Unsurprisingly, their Union is trying to protect the four cops.

    https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/...is-leadership/

    Long story short, Lt. Kroll is complaining that the officers were fired without due process, and he's trying to shift blame for all the recent happenings on someone else (namely, city leadership). He's also trying to dredge up the fact Floyd was arrested in 2007 for Armed Robbery, completely ignoring the fact that people can change over time (apparently, Floyd was actively working with Ministries operating in the Third Ward of Houston before he moved to Minneapolis).
    Yeah, EVEN IF Floyd had been arrested for armed robbery, and EVEN IF the arresting officers were aware of that, it does ZERO to justify the manner in which they handled this.
    And, I had been asking - did the Police Union have the integrity to AT LEAST admit this was very disturbing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertBerean View Post
    I feel bad for the union. They have to defend them somehow. I fear for their families' safety.
    I have worked in union shops, but never as a police officer - they could at LEAST showed some integrity by saying something like, "while we are deeply disturbed by what has happened....." OR, put the word out to the guys on the job that "guys, look, there's no way we can excuse what happened..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I seriously doubt this will ever go away or get treated as a minor technicality.
    Then you are a FAR more optimistic person than I am, rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    More like the MSM doesn't care unless it furthers their agenda.
    What exactly do you think their agenda is, rogue?


    Look at all the black on black homicides in places like Chicago that they studiously turn a blind eye to for how many years now?
    If they turned a blind eye to it you wouldn't know about it. Do you expect the media to solve the problems as well?

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    It's beginning to sound like some of the officers standing by while Floyd was killed were objecting verbally to what was going on, like, "shouldn't we turn him over", and Chauvin clearly says "no".

    That makes the case against the other officers SLIGHTLY less bad - they should have acted - but WORSE for Chauvin, where "intent" may be inferred from the fact that he actually rejected pleas (however weak) from fellow officers to let Floyd up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's beginning to sound like some of the officers standing by while Floyd was killed were objecting verbally to what was going on, like, "shouldn't we turn him over", and Chauvin clearly says "no".

    That makes the case against the other officers SLIGHTLY less bad - they should have acted - but WORSE for Chauvin, where "intent" may be inferred from the fact that he actually rejected pleas (however weak) from fellow officers to let Floyd up.
    Another bit of misinformation is that they in fact did get him into the police car. I initially thought, because that's what folks were saying, that when they brought him over the car he fell. No, he was already inside, and for some reason, Chauvin pulled him and threw him to the ground.
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