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    What is the MSM?

    I'm curious, I've been in online hangouts with Rumtumtggr, and heard this mentioned. I've been accused of reading MSM news sources by Mossrose, and I've seen SeanD and Mountain Man blame all sorts of stuff on them.

    Who are the MSM? I'm honestly confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I'm curious, I've been in online hangouts with Rumtumtggr, and heard this mentioned. I've been accused of reading MSM news sources by Mossrose, and I've seen SeanD and Mountain Man blame all sorts of stuff on them.

    Who are the MSM? I'm honestly confused.
    Mainstream media, controlled by a few corporate conglomerates or parent companies at the very top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanD View Post
    Mainstream media, controlled by a few corporate conglomerates or parent companies at the very top.
    I take it this would include both right and left-wing media then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I take it this would include both right and left-wing media then?
    It could be both but usually when a poster used MSM, they mean left-wing media. Here in the US, I believe the mainstream media is CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, the NY Times, the Washington Post plus others. I suppose you could call Fox a MSM but the other MSM would deny any commonality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    It could be both but usually when a poster used MSM, they mean left-wing media. Here in the US, I believe the mainstream media is CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, the NY Times, the Washington Post plus others. I suppose you could call Fox a MSM but the other MSM would deny any commonality.
    And Fox News and Breitbart, or anything owned by Turner Broadcasting is not part of the MSM. Yeah that would make the MSM a rather empty moniker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
    It could be both but usually when a poster used MSM, they mean left-wing media. Here in the US, I believe the mainstream media is CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, the NY Times, the Washington Post plus others. I suppose you could call Fox a MSM but the other MSM would deny any commonality.
    Yeah, it used to be that the news was considered trustworthy - Walter Kronkitish. But it seemed to become more and more biased, which gave rise to alternate sources like Fox News.

    It also gave rise to conservative talk radio like Rush Limbaugh and others, who constantly criticize (often rightly) the abuses of the MSM - like CNN.

    We've seen documented cases where some of the "news" outlets outright FAKED a story, like the legendary NBC Admits It Rigged Crash, Settles GM Suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    And Fox News and Breitbart, or anything owned by Turner Broadcasting is not part of the MSM. Yeah that would make the MSM a rather empty moniker.
    A lot of the 24 hour "cable news" is actually commentary and opinion. Hard news is very rare. Our local news channel (well, Houston's about as local as we can get) includes some of the DUMBEST stuff as "news", including a "ZEN MOMENT" to help calm people down. It's nutty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, it used to be that the news was considered trustworthy - Walter Kronkitish. But it seemed to become more and more biased, which gave rise to alternate sources like Fox News.

    It also gave rise to conservative talk radio like Rush Limbaugh and others, who constantly criticize (often rightly) the abuses of the MSM - like CNN.

    We've seen documented cases where some of the "news" outlets outright FAKED a story, like the legendary NBC Admits It Rigged Crash, Settles GM Suit.
    It's funny because, though the leftists in here drone on and on about Breitbart and other conservative news networks, the only time I've actually SEEN fake news in action -- and by fake I don't just mean false reports, but actual video or audio deceptively edited, where they were either forced to apologize or even sued, and/or staging fake situations -- is from the MSM. Maybe it's just because I don't read Breitbart on a regular basis. But I don't think I've ever seen Fox News do this either. The last deceptive thing I remember Fox News doing is how they shunned Ron Paul during the 2008 election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, it used to be that the news was considered trustworthy - Walter Kronkitish.
    That's largely because they had a literal monopoly on the flow of information. The news was just as slanted then, but there was no alternative media to call them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I take it this would include both right and left-wing media then?
    It's basically jounalism that the right wingers don't want to hear. Hitler called it the Lugenpress, or the lying press, Trump calls it fake news a tactic which he probably got from reading Mein Kampf.

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