Trump exposed

[Charles]

Now, who said that and when. Give it a thought....

As recent as it may sound it was said by in July 2016 by Trump.... So, yet another statement that would turn out to be absurd in light of what would actually happen. And this very phenomenon, this idea that you can somehow expect what you say to actually turn out to be the truth while in other cases imagining it is not going to have any consequences to appeal to fear and divide, is what was always so dangerous about Trump. Which is why we so often warned you.

This is very much to the point:

But they can, and do, point to how he made a bad situation so much worse. The story of Trump’s presidency was arguably always leading to this moment, with its toxic mix of weak moral leadership, racial divisiveness, crass and vulgar rhetoric and an erosion of norms, institutions and trust in traditional information sources. Taken together, these ingredients created a tinderbox poised to explode when crises came.

Trump, they say, was uniquely ill-qualified for this moment. He tried to wish away the threat of the coronavirus and failed to prepare, then paid no heed to how communities of colour bore the brunt of its health and economic consequences. As unrest now grips dozens of cities, he speaks an authoritarian language of “thugs”, “vicious dogs” and “when the looting starts, the shooting starts”.

Emphasis mine.

[oxmixmudd]

Now, who said that and when. Give it a thought....

As recent as it may sound it was said by in July 2016 by Trump.... So, yet another statement that would turn out to be absurd in light of what would actually happen. And this very phenomenon, this idea that you can somehow expect what you say to actually turn out to be the truth while in other cases imagining it is not going to have any consequences to appeal to fear and divide, is what was always so dangerous about Trump. Which is why we so often warned you.

This is very much to the point:



Emphasis mine.

Absolutely. The lights out at the White House pretty much says all that needs to be said about Donald Trump and what he has so far done to America.

[Mountain Man]

The funny thing is that if Black Jesus was still in the White House, or Hillary, and they did the exact same things Trump has done, liberals would be singing their praises about how masterfully they handled the crisis. Handsy Joe finally stopped talking about his plan for the Chine flu, because every time he did, it was either something Trump had already done, was currently doing, or had already proposed.

[Whateverman]

"Trump, they say, was uniquely ill-qualified for this moment."

I think that's a fair statement. The article is right in that Trump didn't cause the troubles afflicting this country today. However, he did exacerbate them to an extent which makes the US feel more like a fascist state.

And let me be perfectly clear: the voters who voted for him largely wanted him to upset the apple cart. They wanted him to make people angry. Whether their criticisms of various aspects of this country are valid or not, they're responsible for putting a clown at the helm, and doubly-so because they knew exactly what they were doing.

I'd say about half of American voters were uniquely ill-qualified for one particular moment in 2016...

[DivineOb]

The funny thing is that if Black Jesus was still in the White House, or Hillary, and they did the exact same things Trump has done, liberals would be singing their praises about how masterfully they handled the crisis. Handsy Joe finally stopped talking about his plan for the Chine flu, because every time he did, it was either something Trump had already done, was currently doing, or had already proposed.

One thing that would be different with a Democrat in office is they wouldn't insist on calling Coronavirus the "Chinese Flu" / Kung Flu / etc. and I wouldn't have to worry about my wife and kids being exposed to racist attacks as a result. So that's one difference.

[Mountain Man]

One thing that would be different with a Democrat in office is they wouldn't insist on calling Coronavirus the "Chinese Flu" / Kung Flu / etc. and I wouldn't have to worry about my wife and kids being exposed to racist attacks as a result. So that's one difference.

Calling it the "China flu" is not racist, so your wife and kids are safe.

[oxmixmudd]

The funny thing is that if Black Jesus was still in the White House, or Hillary, and they did the exact same things Trump has done, liberals would be singing their praises about how masterfully they handled the crisis. Handsy Joe finally stopped talking about his plan for the Chine flu, because every time he did, it was either something Trump had already done, was currently doing, or had already proposed.

Disgusting racial and xenofobic rhetoric seems to be all you have to give on these topics MM

To quote your Idol: so sad.

[DivineOb]

Calling it the "China flu" is not racist, so your wife and kids are safe.

There has been a large upswing in anti-Asian racism due to COVID45. If you are unaware of that then you are just willfully ignorant. There have literally been Chinese assaulted as a result of COVID45. Doing *nothing* (rather than trying to reduce this) would be bad enough. Saying something which feeds the anti-Chinese narrative is a hundred times worse.

It's just so selfish to insist that because you're white this can't be a problem.

[mikewhitney]

Now, who said that and when. Give it a thought....

As recent as it may sound it was said by in July 2016 by Trump.... So, yet another statement that would turn out to be absurd in light of what would actually happen. And this very phenomenon, this idea that you can somehow expect what you say to actually turn out to be the truth while in other cases imagining it is not going to have any consequences to appeal to fear and divide, is what was always so dangerous about Trump. Which is why we so often warned you.

This is very much to the point:



Emphasis mine.

This quote sounds backwards. It is the toxic media that has propagated lies and promoted racism. Yet, people go on quoting the media and promoting the divisive talk that it promotes. People read and hear this and turn against the President -- that is obvious division promoted by the media. If the media had said Trump was great and that he was promoting healing, people would more often speak positively of what the President has done.

The riots are not likely due to locals causing violence. I wonder if it ever has been that case. Though, there probably have been instances where locals have rioted. However, if peaceful gatherings are transitioned to rioting, it more likely is groups that travel in to locations to turn these into riots. I would not like to hear from Black Lives Matter on this ... they have already promoted unrest rather than political solutions. They are not the ones the media should turn to for its recommendation.

If the media calms down, the normal people will calm down. The rioters then will be left in the spotlight.

Please stop listening to this destructive media. Please. Please. Please.

[Bill the Cat]

Now, who said that and when. Give it a thought....

As recent as it may sound it was said by in July 2016 by Trump.... So, yet another statement that would turn out to be absurd in light of what would actually happen. And this very phenomenon, this idea that you can somehow expect what you say to actually turn out to be the truth while in other cases imagining it is not going to have any consequences to appeal to fear and divide, is what was always so dangerous about Trump. Which is why we so often warned you.

This is very much to the point:



Emphasis mine.

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[Mountain Man]

There has been a large upswing in anti-Asian racism due to COVID45. If you are unaware of that then you are just willfully ignorant. There have literally been Chinese assaulted as a result of COVID45. Doing *nothing* (rather than trying to reduce this) would be bad enough. Saying something which feeds the anti-Chinese narrative is a hundred times worse.

It's just so selfish to insist that because you're white this can't be a problem.

Everybody already knows it originated in China, and racists will do racist things no matter ehat we call it. There are more important things to worry about than someone referring to an illness by its common name, like the fact that the government is using China flu fear-mongering to suppress our basic freedoms.

[DivineOb]

Everybody already knows it originated in China, and racists will do racist things no matter ehat we call it.

If I can be frank, that is total horse[hockey]. Claiming "racists r gonna racist amirite" is just you making an excuse to put zero consideration into people who aren't like you. If there is even a small chance that someone might be affected by this why not just use the scientific designation which doesn't put the blame on a group of people in *this* country, most of who weren't even born in China (like my wife and my kids!)?

There are more important things to worry about than someone referring to an illness by its common name, like the fact that the government is using China flu fear-mongering to suppress our basic freedoms.

That's no excuse for not getting the small things right when it's trivial to do and can have real world consequences for another human being.

[Mountain Man]

If I can be frank, that is total horse[hockey]. Claiming "racists r gonna racist amirite" is just an excuse to put zero consideration into people who aren't like you. If there is even a small chance that someone might be affected by this why not just use the scientific designation which doesn't put the blame on a group of people in *this* country, most of who weren't even born in China (like my wife and my kids!).



That's no excuse for not getting the small things right when it's trivial to do and can have real world consequences from another human being.

I greatly doubt that anybody will happen across my posts referring to it as the "China flu" or the "Wuhan virus" and be incited to go out looking for Asian people to assault.

[JimL]

Calling it the "China flu" is not racist, so your wife and kids are safe.

It may not be racist on its face, but it is the reason for your continuously calling it that rather than its clinical name, and you know it.

[DivineOb]

I greatly doubt that anybody will happen across my posts referring to it as the "China flu" or the "Wuhan virus" and be incited to go out looking for Asian people to assault.

Perhaps not. But that's hardly a biblical perspective to take on anything of this nature.

Secondly, you said this

Everybody already knows it originated in China, and racists will do racist things no matter ehat (sic) we call it.

Meaning you were defending the use of the term *even if* it were seen by others. Racists even!