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Originally posted by Ronson View PostNot to.
The deal breaker is if he does employ troops, then he would definitely not get a vote from me. That would cause my libertarian DNA alarms to go berserk.
Time for an interesting lesson in using the military against one's own citizens?
1993, there was a battle raging over control of the Russian White House, and Boris Yeltsin had a fight on his hands with the Russian parliament. The military was doing their best to try to remain neutral, but there came a point at which a former military commander convinced some of his active duty commanders to act.
Long story short, a column of army tanks was headed to the White House, and had to cross the Novy Arbat bridge on the way, where a small crowed of demonstrators was blocking the way. The tank commander was in the second tank, so as the first tank stopped on the bridge, the commander popped the hatch and yelled "what's wrong". The commander of the lead tank yelled, "there's a woman on the bridge and she won't move". The commanding officer yelled, "Well RUN HER OVER", to which the lead tank's driver yelled - "I CAN'T!!!! She's my MOTHER!!!!"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"...unnamed source..."
You idiots fall for this every... single... time...
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, OK. I'm STILL hoping it was a typical "dumb comment", and he actually intended the National Guard.
Time for an interesting lesson in using the military against one's own citizens?
1993, there was a battle raging over control of the Russian White House, and Boris Yeltsin had a fight on his hands with the Russian parliament. The military was doing their best to try to remain neutral, but there came a point at which a former military commander convinced some of his active duty commanders to act.
Long story short, a column of army tanks was headed to the White House, and had to cross the Novy Arbat bridge on the way, where a small crowed of demonstrators was blocking the way. The tank commander was in the second tank, so as the first tank stopped on the bridge, the commander popped the hatch and yelled "what's wrong". The commander of the lead tank yelled, "there's a woman on the bridge and she won't move". The commanding officer yelled, "Well RUN HER OVER", to which the lead tank's driver yelled - "I CAN'T!!!! She's my MOTHER!!!!"
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAh, OK. I'm STILL hoping it was a typical "dumb comment", and he actually intended the National Guard.
Time for an interesting lesson in using the military against one's own citizens?
1993, there was a battle raging over control of the Russian White House, and Boris Yeltsin had a fight on his hands with the Russian parliament. The military was doing their best to try to remain neutral, but there came a point at which a former military commander convinced some of his active duty commanders to act.
Long story short, a column of army tanks was headed to the White House, and had to cross the Novy Arbat bridge on the way, where a small crowed of demonstrators was blocking the way. The tank commander was in the second tank, so as the first tank stopped on the bridge, the commander popped the hatch and yelled "what's wrong". The commander of the lead tank yelled, "there's a woman on the bridge and she won't move". The commanding officer yelled, "Well RUN HER OVER", to which the lead tank's driver yelled - "I CAN'T!!!! She's my MOTHER!!!!"
Not just a 'dumb comment'. The Defense Secretary himself broke with Trump over it.
https://www.abccolumbia.com/2020/06/...urrection-act/
If you don't want to read ABC, it's all over the news. Pick your outlet.
here's one from fox:
https://www.fox13news.com/news/defen...y-for-protestsMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNot just a 'dumb comment'. The Defense Secretary himself broke with Trump over it.
https://www.abccolumbia.com/2020/06/...urrection-act/
If you don't want to read ABC, it's all over the news. Pick your outlet.
here's one from fox:
https://www.fox13news.com/news/defen...y-for-protests
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No tear gas. It was the Park Police, not Trump or the Secret Service, and they were not being peaceful..
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the USPP said in a statement. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
Still, the Park Police acknowledged using smoke canisters and pepper balls on the protesters.
“As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls when protestors did scatter from the area," the statement said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/par...r-gas-was-used
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo tear gas. It was the Park Police, not Trump or the Secret Service, and they were not being peaceful..
“At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids,” the USPP said in a statement. “The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.”
Still, the Park Police acknowledged using smoke canisters and pepper balls on the protesters.
“As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls when protestors did scatter from the area," the statement said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/par...r-gas-was-used
ETA: Australian eyewitness report
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sto...cops/?cs=14231Last edited by Ronson; 06-03-2020, 02:58 PM.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostAccording to Muriel Bowser, Lafayette Park is under White House police jurisdiction. She said it was not metro police that cleared the park, but were federal police. If true, then federal police are still riding horses, because I saw horses. I also saw tear gas.
ETA: Australian eyewitness report
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sto...cops/?cs=14231
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postthe article I linked to said it was the US Park Police. And what you saw were smoke canisters. Did you even read what I posted?
No, I hadn't. I was going by the video I watched and the Australian report.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postthe article I linked to said it was the US Park Police. And what you saw were smoke canisters. Did you even read what I posted?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostI'm thinking that more than one agency was present in the park, because there was definitely tear gas used.
No, I hadn't. I was going by the video I watched and the Australian report.
Caption - Authorities have admitted to deploying smoke canisters and PepperBalls. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
The cops are standing there in it, NOT wearing gas masks.Last edited by Cow Poke; 06-03-2020, 03:13 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOK, I think there's a distinction that SMOKE was used, but not tear-gas. To the untrained observer (or the ignorant leftist media) it could be seen as "tear gas".
Caption - Authorities have admitted to deploying smoke canisters and PepperBalls. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
And I saw people gagging in a haze on the videos. I would have to believe that "smoke" caused it? Perhaps the Park Police used smoke (for what purpose, I don't know) but someone used tear gas.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostWhat is the purpose of smoke canisters to disperse a crowd? It makes it more difficult for authorities to see them.
And I saw people gagging in a haze on the videos. I would have to believe that "smoke" caused it? Perhaps the Park Police used smoke (for what purpose, I don't know) but someone used tear gas.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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