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    This stunt is getting roundly criticized by multiple voices from the church.

    https://www.palmerreport.com/politic...e-stunt/29280/


    Mariann Budde, the Episcopal Bishop for the District of Columbia, told the media that Donald Trump had no business pulling the stunt, and that in particular he has no business invoking the Bible, because “everything he has said and done is to enflame violence.”

    Then Bishop Michael Curry, who presides over the Episcopal Church, tweeted this: “This evening, the President of the United States stood in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church, lifted up a bible, and had pictures of himself taken. In so doing, he used a church building and the Holy Bible for partisan political purposes. This was done in a time of deep hurt and pain in our country, and his action did nothing to help us or to heal us.”


    Now the rubber hits the road for RWNJs -- are they going to stand for such a perverse distortion of everything the Church stands for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    This stunt is getting roundly criticized by multiple voices from the church.

    https://www.palmerreport.com/politic...e-stunt/29280/


    Mariann Budde, the Episcopal Bishop for the District of Columbia, told the media that Donald Trump had no business pulling the stunt, and that in particular he has no business invoking the Bible, because “everything he has said and done is to enflame violence.”

    Then Bishop Michael Curry, who presides over the Episcopal Church, tweeted this: “This evening, the President of the United States stood in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church, lifted up a bible, and had pictures of himself taken. In so doing, he used a church building and the Holy Bible for partisan political purposes. This was done in a time of deep hurt and pain in our country, and his action did nothing to help us or to heal us.”


    Now the rubber hits the road for RWNJs -- are they going to stand for such a perverse distortion of everything the Church stands for?
    The Episcopal Church is generally considered well left of center so those statements shouldn't catch anybody off guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    The Episcopal Church is generally considered well left of center so those statements shouldn't catch anybody off guard.
    And they were right to comment thusly. His actions were his usual despicable BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    This stunt is getting roundly criticized by multiple voices from the church.
    Most of what we're seeing with regard to this story is people's reactions. I have seen little if any information about what actually happened.
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    More information is coming out. It seems that the protestors in the park were in violation of the city's 7PM curfew and were given multiple warnings to clear the area, so it actually had nothing to do with Trump. In fact, it sounds like he may have deliberately scheduled his walk for after the curfew.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-is-a-fascist/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronson View Post
    I read this report in two places, HuffPost (gag!) and The Independent. Neither provided any video evidence of their claim, which is that Trump had "peaceful protesters" cleared out of his path with tear gas, so he could do a photo op at a church. I looked on YouTube and also found no evidence there. If true, it is despicable. But because HuffPost is on par with CNN for fake news, I don't believe it without proof.

    Anyone?


    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...b6449ef9663fa1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronson View Post
    Then it sounds like it is true - even Breitbart confirmed it. Trump had peaceful protesters violently removed so he could do a photo op.

    Not good.
    The use of tear gas - while I would think it unnecessary (absent the facts) = is not "violently removing" anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    According to here this was arranged absolutely last minute without adequate time for the SS to prepare.
    And I really thought it was a dumb photo op --- Trump standing there holding a Bible, and turning it every which way to show it's a Bible.

    It kinda reminds me of the dumb photo op where Clinton was on (Normandy - Omaha beach?) and stooped down to form some rocks into a cross with a (battleship?) in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    The use of tear gas - while I would think it unnecessary (absent the facts) = is not "violently removing" anybody.
    OK, I found this out.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC
    VERDICT: MOSTLY FALSE. Protesters outside the White House were cleared ahead of D.C.’s 7 p.m. curfew, which was announced by Mayor Muriel Bowser, a Democrat, earlier in the day.

    Alerts about the curfew were sent out directly to smartphones across the District well ahead of time. By violating curfew, protesters would have been breaking the law, making the description “peaceful protesters” largely inaccurate.

    Furthermore, the ongoing protests outside the White House, which were in their third day prior to the dispersal, have not been peaceful.

    Over the past three days, rioters outside the White House have violently clashed with Secret Service officers, torn down barricades, assaulted journalists (including Breitbart News reporter Matthew Perdie), vandalized historic buildings and monuments, and lit multiple fires, including one that caused damage to the historic St. John’s Episcopal Church, opposite the White House.

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