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Originally posted by JimL View PostDo you mean like the beer summit between the Cambridge police officer and Professor Louis Gates which was a divisive subject in the country at the time. I think we can all correctly guess what Trump would have done in that situation.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostVery early into his time in office, he gave some televised interview in which he said he didn't know how hard being president was going to be...
"Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated." - Donald Trump, February 28, 2017"My favorite color in the alphabet is three." - Donald J. Trump
"The 'J' in my middle name stands for 'Jenius'" - Donald J. Trump
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Originally posted by Reepicheep View PostTrump has made many, many statements which I'd consider for "best Trumpism of his Presidency", far too many to list, but the following would certainly make my top ten list:
"Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated." - Donald Trump, February 28, 2017
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Originally posted by Reepicheep View PostTrump has made many, many statements which I'd consider for "best Trumpism of his Presidency", far too many to list, but the following would certainly make my top ten list:
"Nobody knew that healthcare could be so complicated." - Donald Trump, February 28, 2017
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostMost everyone did.
Possibly Trump slept through the Obama presidency and hasn't heard of Obamacare?
The thing is though, healthcare doesn't have to be complicated. The US just chooses to make it that way. The government could just choose to fund it for everyone like other countries do. But that wouldn't give the private health industry the ability to gouge sick people for all they're worth, so the politicians are being bribed against it."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View Posthealthcare doesn't have to be complicated. The US just chooses to make it that way. The government could just choose to fund it for everyone like other countries do. But that wouldn't give the private health industry the ability to gouge sick people for all they're worth, so the politicians are being bribed against it.
I personally think we need to reform several things before it's possible for the US to start treating healthcare like many other modern countries do.
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostWe know him too well. At the last minute in October, the Repubs are going to throw him under the bus, and a replacement candidate from the traditional Repubs party will come forward
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostIt's more complicated than that, though. We have several industries (insurance, legal representation, managed health care, pharmaceuticals/research, etc) that have grown up around the competitive model of healthcare here in the US. Even if the government could find a way to afford to provide healthcare for all citizens (and yes, I know that doesn't mean they'd pay every penny), having them step in to provide it would have a pretty significant impact on the economy and the associated industries.
I personally think we need to reform several things before it's possible for the US to start treating healthcare like many other modern countries do.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostGiving trillions in tax breaks to the wealthy has a significant impact on the economy, the enormous cost of healthcare for individuals has a significant impact on the economy.That's what
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostI believe steadfastly that the traditional Republican party is dead."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostSorry, but that is not an answer Jim. How many hundreds of thousands are you willing to put out of work just so you can have crappy government run healthcare?
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