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Baby is only a term for offspring. It's not a scientific term for a stage of development! It's also used to mean an immature human(as an insult). Sure, infant is what may pop into your head first, but toddlers are still babies even if they are no longer infants. And premature babies are called babies even if they are still the same age as a fetus, they just have to struggle for survival while their peer is still living on easy street.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostCalling a blastocyst a "baby" is silly.
Calling something that looks akin to embryos of other species a baby is just as silly.
Face it: pro-life advocates call everything during the 9 month gestation period a baby, because it's easier to tug on emotions than address the complicated ethical situation that abortion is at the center of.
If you want pro-choicers to stop using technical terminology, stop pro-lifers from arguing from emotion.That's what
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostOh. Then I'll take back my kudos. Where do you think your links back *that* up?That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe links were not used to prove that point. They were used later when the claim was brought forth that a fetus wasn't a baby.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostThe first half of the thread was you guys refusing to concede that "baby killer" applied!
Then the rest of the thread was you and some others nitpicking the use of the word "baby" because you would rather dehumanize the unborn so they are easier to kill. Same reason they lie about them being a "clump of cells" so they can fool innocent young girls into killing their babies.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostThe first half of the thread was you guys refusing to concede that "baby killer" applied!
That's obviously what it's been all along, but it didn't turn out quite like you scripted it.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Why the arguments about brain development? Young human organism aren't very bright yet. That does not make it okay to kill them just because they aren't smarter than a dog yet! Or a hamster? How smart is a hamster compared to a newborn? The hamster has better motor skills and survival instincts, but will always be a hamster. A human organism will eventually be the smartest among the animal kingdom in five or six years of development(some animals are as smart as a four year old?).If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo, it was you trying to get CP to call all of the women "murderers," and when that didn't work, "baby killers," just for "insurance"
Then the rest of the thread was you and some others nitpicking the use of the word "baby" because you would rather dehumanize the unborn so they are easier to kill. Same reason they lie about them being a "clump of cells" so they can fool innocent young girls into killing their babies.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI very clearly explained why I would not be goaded into using that phrase just for you to feel good about your "gotcha" thread.
That's obviously what it's been all along, but it didn't turn out quite like you scripted it.
How's Dee Dee doing these days, btw?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI think he was simply enquiring why it is that you don't want to call them baby murderers when you believe them to be murdering their babies.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by DivineOb View PostNo, it turned out exactly as I'd hoped.
How's Dee Dee doing these days, btw?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostWhy the arguments about brain development? Young human organism aren't very bright yet. That does not make it okay to kill them just because they aren't smarter than a dog yet! Or a hamster? How smart is a hamster compared to a newborn? The hamster has better motor skills and survival instincts, but will always be a hamster. A human organism will eventually be the smartest among the animal kingdom in five or six years of development(some animals are as smart as a four year old?).
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