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  • Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
    ?????? They translated their scriptures into Greek.
    For a Jewish diaspora that had lost its knowledge of Hebrew.

    However, for a Pharisee, the Scriptures would have been in the original language and not a translation.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      For a Jewish diaspora that had lost its knowledge of Hebrew.

      However, for a Pharisee, the Scriptures would have been in the original language and not a translation.
      That would NOT preclude knowledge of and speaking Greek among the people as you implied.. Don't be nonsensical .

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      • Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
        That would NOT preclude knowledge of and speaking Greek among the people as you implied.. Don't be nonsensical .

        Going offline for now...will return to this.
        Why does an alleged Pharisee never quote the texts in their original language?
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
          Why does an alleged Pharisee never quote the texts in their original language?
          ?????

          Because he wrote in Greek? Why on earth would he quote the scriptures in Hebrew if he was writing to a Greek-speaking audience?

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          • Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
            ?????

            Because he wrote in Greek? Why on earth would he quote the scriptures in Hebrew if he was writing to a Greek-speaking audience?
            Because he alleged he was a Pharisee and therefore should have been familiar with those texts in their original language. He never uses the original Hebrew he only ever quotes the Septuagint.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • The Hebrew text is mainly available from the 10th or 11th century. So there are concerns about changes that could occur.

              Paul was a human and could make choices what text to use. He was addressing Gentiles so it is not odd that he selects a text already in Greek. Paul did not have to have some neurotic compulsion to hold to the Hebrew text.

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              • Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                The Hebrew text is mainly available from the 10th or 11th century. So there are concerns about changes that could occur.

                Paul was a human and could make choices what text to use. He was addressing Gentiles so it is not odd that he selects a text already in Greek. Paul did not have to have some neurotic compulsion to hold to the Hebrew text.
                BC or AD?
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                • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  Because he alleged he was a Pharisee and therefore should have been familiar with those texts in their original language. He never uses the original Hebrew he only ever quotes the Septuagint.
                  What does his being a Pharisee have to do with the audience he's trying to communicate with? You said yourself the Septuagint was for the Diaspora, therefore available to the Greeks as well.
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                  • Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                    The Hebrew text is mainly available from the 10th or 11th century.
                    In what language do you imagine the texts at Qumran were composed?


                    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                    Paul was a human and could make choices what text to use. He was addressing Gentiles so it is not odd that he selects a text already in Greek.
                    The Septuagint contains translation errors, as any trained Pharisee would be aware; particularly one, whom the author of Acts tells us, had studied with Gamaliel. His students would certainly not have studied the Hebrew scriptures using the Septuagint

                    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                    Paul did not have to have some neurotic compulsion to hold to the Hebrew text.
                    No one has mentioned Paul's possible/probable neuroses.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
                      What does his being a Pharisee have to do with the audience he's trying to communicate with? You said yourself the Septuagint was for the Diaspora, therefore available to the Greeks as well.
                      See my reply above.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • CE. I think he is referring to the Masoretic text.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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