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Did the Jews really kill Jesus?
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"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View PostWhich therefore makes your opinion about interpolation, inconclusive."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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"How can scholarly opinion deal with bias?"
Your anti-Christian views clearly betray your bias and preconceived notions - about "Pauline conspiracies", interpolations and similar "falsehoods" in the early Christian traditions.
When scholars who are Christian clergy have debunked those opinions above, you just whine and dismiss them as "clergymen", which is a cop-out.
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View Post"How can scholarly opinion deal with bias?"
Your anti-Christian views clearly betray your bias and preconceived notions - about "Pauline conspiracies", interpolations and similar "falsehoods" in the early Christian traditions.
When scholars who are Christian clergy have debunked those opinions above, you just whine and dismiss them as "clergymen", which is a cop-out."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by 37818 View Posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4CY73psVFQ
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostI asked YOU what the Kingdom of God is?
I also asked you where you heard of it."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View PostLol! You are read pretty well, there’s no need to learn any reading from you."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostTo a first century Jew the Kingdom of God would have been a theocratic state with an anointed king under god, and with no infidel Romans.
You have identified problems with interpretation of scripture so you understand that one perspective may seem as valid as another.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostBut you shouldn't blame them for having only a partial understanding of the nature of the kingdom of God.
Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostThe full understanding was not possible until Jesus revealed the full details.
Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostYou have identified problems with interpretation of scripture so you understand that one perspective may seem as valid as another.
You seem to either not know or forget that there had been other Messianic movements originating in the countryside in that region and nor were some of these movements in the early years of the first century easily subdued. At least one, led by Athronges, a shepherd, took quite some time for either the Roman or Herodian troops to eventually suppress it.
Neither was that the only messianic movement occurring in the years surrounding the approximate dates for Jesus’ birth. In the late first century BCE and early first century CE there were several mass movements of Jewish peasants who came from villages or towns such as Emmaus, Bethlehem, and Sepphoris. These people rallied to the leadership of charismatic figures who were viewed as “anointed kings of the Jews”. These popular uprisings occurred in all three provincial areas of Jewish settlement in Palestine (i.e. Galilee, Perea, and Judaea).
Sepphoris, a few miles north of Nazareth, had been burned in 4 BCE and its inhabitants sold into slavery; while Emmaus, which is one of the locations for the resurrection appearances according to Luke, had likewise been destroyed by the Romans for another mass uprising, barely a generation later. [See: R.A. Horsley & J.S. Hanson Bandits, Prophets, and Messiahs: Popular Movements in the Time of Jesus ]"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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