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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    He did. That much is clear from testimony so far.



    I can't defend Brooks turning around and shooting, and I agree, that is a quick way to get yourself shot. However, it was a taser. And tasers aren't lethal weapons.
    So I guess the officer should have just stood there and waited until Brooks pulled the trigger and then only after determining whether or not he had been shot could the officer respond



    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I don't think unless I get to be put in a similar position that I'll believe that they couldn't tell he was holding a taser.
    Maybe they should start using all bright yellow models like what I've seen used by the Brits, but this is pretty much what Brooks would have been pointing at the officer -- in the dark.



    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Secondly, I wasn't aware that lethal ammunition was default. Why even have rubber bullets if you're always going to use lethal ammunition?
    Rubber bullets are only issued in crowd control situations (FWIU usually for long arms and not sidearms which still contain standard ammunition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    So I guess the officer should have just stood there and waited until Brooks pulled the trigger and then only after determining whether or not he had been shot could the officer respond
    Fair point I'll have to admit, but it is a stupid situation.

    Maybe they should start using all bright yellow models like what I've seen used by the Brits, but this is pretty much what Brooks would have been pointing at the officer -- in the dark.
    Yeah that would make a lot more sense, because that thing looks far more like a gun than I thought they would. I definitely didn't expect it to have the same color!

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    In the light of how much like a gun a taser looks I'll have to admit that rogue06 is right. I would have expected something this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    In the light of how much like a gun a taser looks I'll have to admit that rogue06 is right. I would have expected something this

    I think we should start using them to help prevent things like this from reoccurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    Fair point I'll have to admit, but it is a stupid situation.



    Yeah that would make a lot more sense, because that thing looks far more like a gun than I thought they would. I definitely didn't expect it to have the same color!
    Leon, I would LOVE for you to go through the "shoot / don't shoot" training like in my thread on Quannel X --- he got "woke" really quickly about how difficult this is.

    He got "killed" a number of times for not responding quickly enough, and he emptied his whole magazine at a "perp" without realizing it, after so much complaining about why cops "empty their whole clip".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I think we should start using them to help prevent things like this from reoccurring.
    Do we have another thread on this? Because I was sure I mentioned that those are the ONLY kind our department allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I think we should start using them to help prevent things like this from reoccurring.
    Ours have black handles, but the 'barrel' and tip are bright yellow.
    The ONLY argument I know of for not using the bright yellow is the tactical "black out" advantage to an officer at night, but a proper holster would conceal the yellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    He did. That much is clear from testimony so far.



    I can't defend Brooks turning around and shooting, and I agree, that is a quick way to get yourself shot. However, it was a taser. And tasers aren't lethal weapons.



    I don't think unless I get to be put in a similar position that I'll believe that they couldn't tell he was holding a taser.

    Secondly, I wasn't aware that lethal ammunition was default. Why even have rubber bullets if you're always going to use lethal ammunition?
    They only use rubber bullets when they know they are doing crowd control.

    Police carry loaded guns with real ammunition. they also carry tasers in some precincts.

    I think rogue was right, the guy grabbed one officer's taser and ran off, then turned around and pointed it at the cops. the other cop, thinking it was a gun shot him. he only had a split second to decide, and the adrenaline was pumping. A gun like object in someone's hand, running in the dark? I think he reacted correctly. They didn't have time to search him before the fight, so he could have had a gun on him too as far as they knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Do we have another thread on this? Because I was sure I mentioned that those are the ONLY kind our department allows.
    It is also part of the "Defund Police" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    I'll have to admit that rogue06 is right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I think rogue was right
    Really guys, this is all that ever needs be said.

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