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    I'm putting this in here because I only want feedback from believers.


    The following blog post was originally published on May 6, 2019. —ed.

    Can white people be saved?

    That’s a ludicrous question, or so you would think. Today it’s an actual point of debate and discussion in the church. It’s also the title of a new book from InterVarsity Press. That the book even exists—and that it was released by a once-respected Christian publishing house—is emblematic of an alarming and escalating trend within evangelicalism: Some professing believers are making skin color into a gospel issue.

    For example, Kelly Brown Douglas, a dean at Union Theological Seminary, doesn’t hesitate to give an answer: “You can’t be white and follow Jesus.” Douglas doubled down on her staggering assertion by declaring: “Just because you look like a white American doesn’t mean you have to act like one. The first step on the road to recovery is to own one’s whiteness and realize how it keeps you from your true identity as a child of God.” That kind of biased rhetoric is now pervasive among social justicians.

    Another prime example is pastor Thabiti Anyabwile, a council member with The Gospel Coalition. While Anyabwile doesn’t go to the anathematizing extremes of Douglas, he still has no qualms accusing generations of white people of guilt by melanin regarding the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “My white neighbors and Christian brethren can start by at least saying their parents and grandparents and this country are complicit in murdering a man who only preached love and justice.”

    Unlike biblical justice—the precepts of which apply equally and indiscriminately to every person (Leviticus 19:15)—social justice classifies people into groups and pits them against one another. This mindset has even infiltrated the church, where words like privilege, oppression, whiteness, and blackness have become commonplace in evangelical sermon vernacular.


    https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B190506



    Am I the only one that finds this absolutely insane? By this criteria, I am not a Christian.


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    Source: Galatians 3:28

    There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

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    So it is written, so it is, end of story.

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    • #3
      Shortest discussion in Tweb history!



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      • #4
        I agree that under this standard I am not a Christian and there is no way I can be saved.

        I think it's an example of subordinating the Gospel to societal demands.
        "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
          I agree that under this standard I am not a Christian and there is no way I can be saved.

          I think it's an example of subordinating the Gospel to societal demands.
          Absolutely. We (the postmodern church) are abdicating the gospel for whatever comes down the social pipeline.

          It's time we got back to the gospel of Jesus Christ!


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          • #6
            As Leonhard has ably pointed out, those people aren't actually preaching the gospel. They're bringing themselves under God's curse, sadly.
            ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
              As Leonhard has ably pointed out, those people aren't actually preaching the gospel. They're bringing themselves under God's curse, sadly.
              That doesn't give us a reason to not proclaim the Gospel. I personnally feel I am sadly lacking in doing this.
              "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

              "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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              • #8
                I think it is possible to charitably interpret the first quote as meaning 'You have to make following Jesus, not any aspect of your identity, including your race and your culture, your highest and defining identity.' Or, IOW, you can't be a follower of Jesus and at the same time have competing identities that command your loyalty above that of your loyalty to Christ.

                Of course, that may not be what was meant.

                The second quote is more problematic. 'Complicit' means involved in, so it goes way past what is true, except for a very few who actually were involved.
                ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                  I'm putting this in here because I only want feedback from believers.


                  The following blog post was originally published on May 6, 2019. —ed.

                  Can white people be saved?

                  That’s a ludicrous question, or so you would think. Today it’s an actual point of debate and discussion in the church. It’s also the title of a new book from InterVarsity Press. That the book even exists—and that it was released by a once-respected Christian publishing house—is emblematic of an alarming and escalating trend within evangelicalism: Some professing believers are making skin color into a gospel issue.

                  For example, Kelly Brown Douglas, a dean at Union Theological Seminary, doesn’t hesitate to give an answer: “You can’t be white and follow Jesus.” Douglas doubled down on her staggering assertion by declaring: “Just because you look like a white American doesn’t mean you have to act like one. The first step on the road to recovery is to own one’s whiteness and realize how it keeps you from your true identity as a child of God.” That kind of biased rhetoric is now pervasive among social justicians.

                  Another prime example is pastor Thabiti Anyabwile, a council member with The Gospel Coalition. While Anyabwile doesn’t go to the anathematizing extremes of Douglas, he still has no qualms accusing generations of white people of guilt by melanin regarding the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “My white neighbors and Christian brethren can start by at least saying their parents and grandparents and this country are complicit in murdering a man who only preached love and justice.”

                  Unlike biblical justice—the precepts of which apply equally and indiscriminately to every person (Leviticus 19:15)—social justice classifies people into groups and pits them against one another. This mindset has even infiltrated the church, where words like privilege, oppression, whiteness, and blackness have become commonplace in evangelical sermon vernacular.


                  https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B190506



                  Am I the only one that finds this absolutely insane? By this criteria, I am not a Christian.
                  There is no basis in the Christian Tradition for insanity like that. That women is preaching heresy.

                  She may not be aware that not all white Christians come from the US. Is that other fellow prepared to blame Australians from (say) the 1860s for the murder of MLK ? The US seems to be unusually fool of lunatics.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                    I'm putting this in here because I only want feedback from believers.


                    The following blog post was originally published on May 6, 2019. —ed.

                    Can white people be saved?

                    That’s a ludicrous question, or so you would think. Today it’s an actual point of debate and discussion in the church. It’s also the title of a new book from InterVarsity Press. That the book even exists—and that it was released by a once-respected Christian publishing house—is emblematic of an alarming and escalating trend within evangelicalism: Some professing believers are making skin color into a gospel issue.

                    For example, Kelly Brown Douglas, a dean at Union Theological Seminary, doesn’t hesitate to give an answer: “You can’t be white and follow Jesus.” Douglas doubled down on her staggering assertion by declaring: “Just because you look like a white American doesn’t mean you have to act like one. The first step on the road to recovery is to own one’s whiteness and realize how it keeps you from your true identity as a child of God.” That kind of biased rhetoric is now pervasive among social justicians.

                    Another prime example is pastor Thabiti Anyabwile, a council member with The Gospel Coalition. While Anyabwile doesn’t go to the anathematizing extremes of Douglas, he still has no qualms accusing generations of white people of guilt by melanin regarding the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “My white neighbors and Christian brethren can start by at least saying their parents and grandparents and this country are complicit in murdering a man who only preached love and justice.”

                    Unlike biblical justice—the precepts of which apply equally and indiscriminately to every person (Leviticus 19:15)—social justice classifies people into groups and pits them against one another. This mindset has even infiltrated the church, where words like privilege, oppression, whiteness, and blackness have become commonplace in evangelical sermon vernacular.


                    https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B190506



                    Am I the only one that finds this absolutely insane? By this criteria, I am not a Christian.
                    There is no basis in the Christian Tradition for insanity like that. That women is preaching heresy.

                    She may not be aware that not all white Christians come from the US. Is that other fellow prepared to blame Australians from (say) the 1860s for the murder of MLK ? The US seems to be unusually full of lunatics.

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