Trump's Oklahoma Rally

[DivineOb]

???? I was seeing attendance figures of 15,000? Low?

Attendance just under 6200.

Andrew Little, the Public Information Officer for the Tulsa Fire Department, confirmed to Forbes on Sunday that a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people, far fewer attendees than the campaign expected.

So not even 1/3 capacity. What a loser.

[rogue06]

Lest somebody claim the empty chairs were BEFORE the speech got started, here's another shot with Sleepy Joe already at the podium....

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Can't remember which poll it was but it found enthusiasm among Biden's supporters was in the low 30s whereas Trump's supporters were in the 60s for their candidate.

[oxmixmudd]

Can't remember which poll it was but it found enthusiasm among Biden's supporters was in the low 30s whereas Trump's supporters were in the 60s for their candidate.

'Enthsiasm' in this election needs to be measured by how motivated we are to vote against a candidate. That's what will bring ne to the polls this November.... assuming trump doesnt find a way to cancel the election or doesnt die first because he caught covid due to his foolish disregard for mask wearing.

[Cow Poke]

I didn't watch much of it, but did see him again bring up the claim of needing to make flag burning illegal... even though the Supreme Court already ruled that such a law is unconstitutional.

Yeah, I wasn't wild about that at all --- I hate seeing the flag burned, but it is, indeed, a freedom of speech.

I suppose, if I wanted to be really charitable, I could say that Trump is saying we should enact such a law, then hopefully it would go up to the SCOTUS again which may overrule its previous decision. But I kind of doubt that's what he's saying--certainly if it was, I think he would've thrown it out as a declaration of why you should vote for him, so he'd appoint people who might overrule the decision.

I think he was just appealing to patriotism, where you see so many attacks on patriotism.

[Cow Poke]

I wonder if there were a large number of Democrats who signed up without any intent on going. The large signups could have discouraged Trump fans from going due to coronavirus concerns or just it being overcrowded. It could also just make the actual results less grand by comparison. Certainly we have news reports on the apparent shortage of participants.

This era just has much deception that often is contrived by the media. We had that thread back around the end of March about the lies of the media. No one seemed compelled to justify the media deception nor deny it. So, the testimony stands that the mainstream media is deceptive -- they will set up situations which they will report as news stories.

Or, lots of people wanted to "save their spot" "just in case" they decided to go --- still, quite a crowd.

[Whateverman]

So...... put white circles on the floor, WAY socially distanced apart, then leave some of those chairs empty.

Better yet, don't attend.

[Cow Poke]

Better yet, don't attend.

Well, they wouldn't have missed anything - Biden's speech was a snoozer -- really don't see any media coverage on it without digging deep.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yes, and they didn't attend the rally, right?

It is possible they could have transmitted the virus to to others before their own infection was noted.

[Charles]

Pretty absurd reading about Trump's rally:

Trump's campaign blamed the low turnout for the rally, as well as the scratched event, on "radical protesters" as well as members of the media, who they claimed "attempted to frighten off the President’s supporters."

Journalists on the ground have refuted seeing large numbers of individuals turned away because of rowdy protesters.

Trump shrugged off the looming threat from the coronavirus, despite several states reporting record-high numbers of cases and hospitalizations in the past few days, including Oklahoma.

Local health officials had called for the rally to be postponed out of concern about the spread of the virus.

Trump barely spoke about race, and did not mention Floyd.

And then, just when it was already bad enough:

Trump called Omar a "hate-filled America-bashing socialist" whose goal is to make America "just like the country from which she came, Somalia. No government, no police, no safety, no nothing."

Omar, a representative from Minnesota, fled Somalia as a refugee and has been a citizen since she was 17. Her father died from COVID-19 a few days ago.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ly/3231998001/

[Cow Poke]

It is possible they could have transmitted the virus to to others before their own infection was noted.

Well, yeah, cause this virus is so uniquely engineered that it focuses in on Republican rallies, and totally avoids liberal "protests".

[rogue06]

'Enthsiasm' in this election needs to be measured by how motivated we are to vote against a candidate. That's what will bring ne to the polls this November.... assuming trump doesnt find a way to cancel the election or doesnt die first because he caught covid due to his foolish disregard for mask wearing.

Nope. It covered that. While Democrats are enthusiastic about beating Trump they have very little enthusiasm for Biden. Historically (if that means anything any more) in elections where one side is motivated by hatred alone that typically means a lot of them end up not bothering. You always want your supporters to be interested in you winning and not just the other guy losing.

[Charles]

Well, yeah, cause this virus is so uniquely engineered that it focuses in on Republican rallies, and totally avoids liberal "protests".

It didn't take long before you needed to rely on whataboutism.

[rogue06]

Pretty absurd reading about Trump's rally:







And then, just when it was already bad enough:



https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ly/3231998001/

It wouldn't be that they were turned away but rather that they didn't go in the first place for fear of being attacked and having their vehicles vandalized. To focus on just the one thing and ignore this was either very ignorant or deliberately dishonest.

And Oh noes Trump didn't focus on what the MSM wanted him to focus on but rather what likely would be of even more interest to those who turned out. hair-fire.gif

[Cow Poke]

I didn't take long before you needed to rely on whataboutism.

WOW, Charles can make goofy faces and clap!

[rogue06]

I didn't take long before you needed to rely on whataboutism.

I [sic] didn't take long before you needed to rely on selective outrage