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    Self-righteous vandals

    Do we have any moderate lefties here who clearly denounce this violence?

    Violent left-wing activists have taken to styling themselves as antifa, short for ‘anti-fascists’, though their street-fighting tactics resemble nothing so much as the Brownshirt thuggery practiced by fascists themselves. This did not stop NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson from likening these hooligans to the heroes of World War Two. On the anniversary of D-Day, June 6, while America’s cities still smoldered after days of riots and looting, Liasson took to Twitter to call the Normandy invasion the ‘biggest antifa rally in history’.

    Dumb jokes are nothing new on Twitter. For many liberals today, however, it’s no laughing matter. They really do think that America is fascist, at least whenever a Republican is in the White House, and so petty vandalism is actually a heroic act of resistance. Knock the head off a statue of Columbus, smash the glass of every storefront on the street, and you’re defeating Adolf Hitler all over again. Such is the state of historical literacy and what passes for the moral imagination among many with comfortable perches in the national media. You would think that if they had a problem with the establishment, they should throw the first rock at a mirror. Spare the innocent shopkeepers who pay the price for antifa antics. Plenty of them are black or immigrants themselves, if that’s what matters to the worthies of NPR.

    Activist academics, for their part, have played a larger role in inflaming the lawlessness. In other lands, archaeologists are people who strive to preserve the monuments of the past. Five years ago in Syria, Khaled al-Asaad, the 83-year-old chief of antiquities for the ancient ruined city of Palmyra, was kidnapped and tortured for a month by Islamic State militants, yet he refused to disclose the whereabouts of the artifacts they sought, and they killed him. In America on May 31 this year, an Egyptologist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham named Sarah Parcak — a Guggenheim Fellow, to boot — tweeted out detailed instructions to protesters on how to tear down a 1905 Confederate military memorial obelisk in her own city. The soldiers and sailors of the Confederacy gave their lives for a state that upheld slavery, of course. But the Palmyrene empire had slaves, too. Would Prof Parcak encourage her followers to finish the job that Isis began?

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    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Do we have any moderate lefties here who clearly denounce this violence?
    I clearly denounce your quoted news piece. What pathetic drivel written by a moron. Why do you waste our time with it?
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    • #3
      I doubt many would have a problem with moving the statues to a museum. So the quoted example is beyond vacuous.

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      • #4
        I have only denounced the pulling down of these statues.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Self-righteous vandals

          Do we have any moderate lefties here who clearly denounce this violence?

          Violent left-wing activists have taken to styling themselves as antifa, short for ‘anti-fascists’, though their street-fighting tactics resemble nothing so much as the Brownshirt thuggery practiced by fascists themselves. This did not stop NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson from likening these hooligans to the heroes of World War Two. On the anniversary of D-Day, June 6, while America’s cities still smoldered after days of riots and looting, Liasson took to Twitter to call the Normandy invasion the ‘biggest antifa rally in history’.

          Dumb jokes are nothing new on Twitter. For many liberals today, however, it’s no laughing matter. They really do think that America is fascist, at least whenever a Republican is in the White House, and so petty vandalism is actually a heroic act of resistance. Knock the head off a statue of Columbus, smash the glass of every storefront on the street, and you’re defeating Adolf Hitler all over again. Such is the state of historical literacy and what passes for the moral imagination among many with comfortable perches in the national media. You would think that if they had a problem with the establishment, they should throw the first rock at a mirror. Spare the innocent shopkeepers who pay the price for antifa antics. Plenty of them are black or immigrants themselves, if that’s what matters to the worthies of NPR.

          Activist academics, for their part, have played a larger role in inflaming the lawlessness. In other lands, archaeologists are people who strive to preserve the monuments of the past. Five years ago in Syria, Khaled al-Asaad, the 83-year-old chief of antiquities for the ancient ruined city of Palmyra, was kidnapped and tortured for a month by Islamic State militants, yet he refused to disclose the whereabouts of the artifacts they sought, and they killed him. In America on May 31 this year, an Egyptologist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham named Sarah Parcak — a Guggenheim Fellow, to boot — tweeted out detailed instructions to protesters on how to tear down a 1905 Confederate military memorial obelisk in her own city. The soldiers and sailors of the Confederacy gave their lives for a state that upheld slavery, of course. But the Palmyrene empire had slaves, too. Would Prof Parcak encourage her followers to finish the job that Isis began?

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          Perhaps you should focus your attention on the actual "white supremecist terrorist organizations" rather than on the anti-fascists. Interesting how conservatives have turned anti fascism into a bad thing and interesting too how you automatically accept the notion that the violence and the inflaming of lawlessness is coming from Antifa when the FBI calls white supremecist groups the greatest terrorist threat, despite Trump and Barrs claims to the contrary.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Perhaps you should focus your attention ...
            Why would I want to take advice from you, Jim? Why would ANYBODY want to take advice from you?
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              I clearly denounce your quoted news piece. What pathetic drivel written by a moron. Why do you waste our time with it?
              Why does it not surprise me in the least that you can't discern the difference between a "news piece" and an opinion?

              Nor should it surprise me that you can't simply denounce violence or anarchy.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Why would I want to take advice from you, Jim? Why would ANYBODY want to take advice from you?
                Because it's obvious that following your own advice leads you to stupidville.

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                • #9

                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  Because it's obvious that following your own advice leads you to stupidville.


                  I must have really hit a nerve. You are a riot.
                  It's like somebody calls you the class clown, and you get into character and prove them right.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Perhaps you should focus your attention on the actual "white supremecist terrorist organizations" rather than on the anti-fascists. Interesting how conservatives have turned anti fascism into a bad thing and interesting too how you automatically accept the notion that the violence and the inflaming of lawlessness is coming from Antifa when the FBI calls white supremecist groups the greatest terrorist threat, despite Trump and Barrs claims to the contrary.
                    Yeah I am sure White Supremacists are going around tearing down confederate statues.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      Yeah I am sure White Supremacists are going around tearing down confederate statues.
                      Oh I'm sure you're right about that. Why would conservative white supremecists tear down monuments to their heros.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Oh I'm sure you're right about that. Why would conservative white supremecists tear down monuments to their heros.
                        Do you approve of the violent tearing down of statues, Jim? Would you claim that is NOT vandalism?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Oh I'm sure you're right about that. Why would conservative white supremecists tear down monuments to their heros.
                          You just destroyed your own claim that the antifa and liberals are not the ones being violent and vandalizing statues and buildings.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            You just destroyed your own claim that the antifa and liberals are not the ones being violent and vandalizing statues and buildings.
                            He did, indeed.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Nor should it surprise me that you can't simply denounce violence or anarchy.
                              I have only denounced the pulling down of these statues.

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