Muhammad Ali’s son says dad would have hated ‘racist’ Black Lives Matter

[JimL]

Maybe not in those words, but you guys pretty much called him a liar, and YOU called him a "clueless dope". YOU, of all people!

Show us one person that called him a liar? That lie came from you.

Nope.

Yup. That's how you end up lying about what people have said.

Wow, talk about somebody "reading into what people are saying". No, it was NOT the goals - it was the tactics.

The tactics of BLM? What are the tactics of BLM, CP. See if you can refrain from lying, or making stuff up.

You mean, accusing him of being a "clueless dope"? Good job, Jim.

Yeah, that's what I mean. No one said he can't think for himself, that's not what disagreeing with someone or thinking them clueless in that regard suggests. One can only guess why you would make that accussation.

Seriously, Jim, put down the bong for AT LEAST 48 hours, then come back, you clueless dope*.

Attack me personally if thats how you get your jollies, CP, I don't mind a bit, but don't blatantly lie by falsely accusing people of saying things they didn't say. The only one lying here is you.

*I say that in the very most respectful way possible.

And I say you're a very dishonest person, CP, in the very most respectful way possible, of course.

[Cow Poke]

Show us one person that called him a liar? That lie came from you.

Calm yourself, Jim - my exact words were "pretty much called him a liar". What else is it when he conveys what his father thinks, and you guys jump on the black man?

And you PERSONALLY called him a "clueless dope".

The rest of your post is crap, and will be treated as such.



(didja hear the flushing sound?)

[rogue06]

I'll apologize for using that word.

Maybe you can convince your buddy DivineOB to apologize for calling us all RWNJ's.

Goes both ways, whag.

I for one will proudly continue to say Hollyweird celebutards

[JimL]

Now, having had your little idiotic false accusation rant, let's look at what he actually said. I'll bold some parts just for you....

The legendary boxer and activist stood up against racism throughout his life, but Muhammad Ali Jr. says his dad would have been sickened by how the protests have turned to violence and looting after the death of George Floyd.

“Don’t bust up s–t, don’t trash the place,” he told The Post. “You can peacefully protest.

‘‘My father would have said, ‘They ain’t nothing but devils.’ My father said, ‘All lives matter.’ I don’t think he’d agree.”

Of the BLM movement, Ali Jr., a Muslim like his father, said: “I think it’s racist.”

“It’s not just black lives matter, white lives matter, Chinese lives matter, all lives matter, everybody’s life matters. God loves everyone — he never singled anyone out. Killing is wrong no matter who it is,” Ali said during an hour-long interview with The Post.

On police brutality, Ali defended law enforcement in general.

“Police don’t wake up and think, ‘I’m going to kill a n—-r today or kill a white man,'” he said. “They’re just trying to make it back home to their family in one piece.

This is not about the GOAL of BLM -- it's about the TACTICS, you clueless dope*.


It is obvious to anybody who knew Ali that, after his conversion to Islam in (1964?) he began a much more "peaceful protest" in his life.


*I say that in the most loving manner possible.

And what is the Title you put to that, CP. "Muhammad Ali's son says dad would have hated 'racist' Black Lives Matter".

Did he actual say that, CP? Or is that just your dishonest spin?

Of the BLM movement, Ali Jr., a Muslim like his father, said: "I think it's racist" Not that his father thought it racist, but that he "thought it racist".

So, your thread title is a lie, you start out right from the get go with a lie. You just want to tie the violence to BLM, and Ali's sons statement about the violence to BLM and his fathers abhorance to violance to BLM, because it fits your narrative. Very dishonest of you, CP.

[Cow Poke]

And what is the Title you put to that, CP. "Muhammad Ali's son says dad would have hated 'racist' Black Lives Matter".

Did he actual say that, CP? Or is that just your dishonest spin?

Of the BLM movement, Ali Jr., a Muslim like his father, said: "I think it's racist" Not that his father thought it racist, but that he "thought it racist".

So, your thread title is a lie, you start out right from the get go with a lie. You just want to tie the violence to BLM, and Ali's sons statement about the violence to BLM and his fathers abhorance to violance to BLM, because it fits your narrative. Very dishonest of you, CP.

Calm yourself, there, Jim ---- I think you're looking at things to be angry about ---- OR, you're in one of your rages, and you're just being stupid....

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If you had bothered to follow the link, you would have seen that's the title of the ARTICLE I cited.

Sheeeeeesh ---- you've really got a steamer going!

[mossrose]

How many times now has Jim called CP a liar, or "dishonest" in this thread?

[Cow Poke]

How many times now has Jim called CP a liar, or "dishonest" in this thread?

He's projecting.

He gets like this when he's wrong, and can't admit, and he goes into these psychotic little fits where he says incredibly stupid things.

I'm betting he wishes he hadn't slipped up and called a black man a "clueless dope".

[JimL]

Calm yourself, Jim - my exact words were "pretty much called him a liar". What else is it when he conveys what his father thinks, and you guys jump on the black man?

Jump on the black man? You're starting to sound a bit racist yourself, CP.

And you PERSONALLY called him a "clueless dope"

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Yep, that's my opinion if he believes his father would have hated the 'racist' Black Lives Matter, as you put it. But as it turns out, that's not actually what he said, is it CP?

The rest of your post is crap, and will be treated as such.



(didja hear the flushing sound?)

So, you intend to stick by your lies then.

[Cow Poke]

Jump on the black man? You're starting to sound a bit racist yourself, CP.

I simply showed what you said, Jim - you're the guy who called a black man "a clueless dope", not me.

Yep, that's my opinion if he believes his father would have hated the 'racist' Black Lives Matter, as you put it. But as it turns out, that's not actually what he said, is it CP?

I showed you exactly what he said, Jim -- I used the very title from the article, I CITED the article, I provided EXCERPTS from the article --- I'm sorry you're such a "clueless dope" that you can't figure that out.

So, you intend to stick by your lies then.

I stand with a clean conscience while you rage false accusations. I'm glad people can see who you really are.

[rogue06]

He's projecting.

He gets like this when he's wrong, and can't admit, and he goes into these psychotic little fits where he says incredibly stupid things.

I'm betting he wishes he hadn't slipped up and called a black man a "clueless dope".

Also when reality fails to match up to his beliefs.

First the leftist Utopia, CHAZ/CHOP, was an utter and complete failure

Second the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit Court ordered that the case against Michael Flynn be dismissed.

[Cow Poke]

I'm rejoicing!

Teaching tonight on the Sermon on the Mount - particularly the Beatitudes.....

Even as Jimmy was blasting me with Satan's breath, I'm reading.....

Matt 5:12ff Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.



(now, yeah, I'm being a bit facetious, because it's a stretch to apply this to an online debate, but, nevertheless, I'm being falsely accused)

[shunyadragon]

Calm yourself, there, Jim ---- I think you're looking at things to be angry about ---- OR, you're in one of your rages, and you're just being stupid....

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If you had bothered to follow the link, you would have seen that's the title of the ARTICLE I cited.

Sheeeeeesh ---- you've really got a steamer going!

It is your steamer that is going full bore, and you have to clean up after yourself. His son was not quoting Muhammad Ali he is expressing an 'opinion' as to what Muhammod Ali 'would' say.

[Cow Poke]

It is your steamer that is going full bore, and you have to clean up after yourself. His son was not quoting Muhammad Ali he is expressing an 'opinion' as to what Muhammod Ali 'would' say.

And a white cracker like you knows better than his own son what Ali thinks.

You need to reign in your white privilege, Bubba.

[JimL]

And a white cracker like you knows better than his own son what Ali thinks.

You need to reign in your white privilege, Bubba.

You've simply been pushing a lie in asserting that those who disagree with Ali's sons opinion are calling him a liar. You made that assertion in your first post in reply to whateverman. No one has called him a liar, and the only one pushing that lie in this thread was you, CP.

[JimL]

I'm rejoicing!

Teaching tonight on the Sermon on the Mount - particularly the Beatitudes.....

Even as Jimmy was blasting me with Satan's breath, I'm reading.....

Matt 5:12ff Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.



(now, yeah, I'm being a bit facetious, because it's a stretch to apply this to an online debate, but, nevertheless, I'm being falsely accused)

I wouldn't rejoice too much just yet CP, the appeals court decision, horrible as it was, is not the final word yet.