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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOriginally posted by Whateverman View PostNo one predicted millions of death as a thing which might come to pass.
As long as you repeat this false claim, I will repeatedly correct you.
Neil Ferguson and his colleagues at Imperial College London gathered an enormous amount of attention in very short order by producing enormous fatality rate estimates such as 510,000 dead in Britain and up to 2,200,000 in the U.S. (Paper)
Here is how the New York Times reported it:
Nicholas Kristof echoed this in an op-ed for the paper:
The virus did not go unchecked, and anyone who thought that we might do nothing about it is an idiot.
Maintaining that people predicted several millions deaths is dishonest, because the prediction relied upon a situation which was never going to exist.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostCP's post was addressed specifically to me as well as to others posting in this thread.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
That's WAY oversimplifying the situation.
It's no different than compulsory seat belt - reason: both saves lives.
Somebody wearing a mask can most certainly be infected through other means.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostCP's post was addressed specifically to me as well as to others posting in this thread.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat's amazing is how the left seems to be clinging to the hope that it will get REALLY worse, because it looks worse for Trump.
Same with the economy.
How sad it must be to be in a position to wish deaths and financial ruin on your country for political purposes.
Note --- how "the left" SEEMS to be clinging to the hope....
I did no call you out, but if the clown shoes fit, wear them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostExactly, it didn't go unchecked. The Trump administration took steps to mitigate the spread of the China flu, and as a result, we've seen a minuscule fraction of what was originally modeled and predicted.
So does Trump get the credit?
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Originally posted by Mountain Child View PostI edited out all the condescension and insults from your post, and this is all that was left.
Originally posted by Mountain Child View Post126,000 deaths is still a tiny fraction of what was originally predicted, which means the administration's efforts to keep the China flu under control have been hugely successful. I'm not certain that we necessarily needed to destroy our economy to accomplish it, and the long-term fallout from an extended lockdown is going to be ugly, I think, not just economically but socially, but you can't say Team Trump didn't "flatten the curve", which was the original stated goal.
Last I checked, you're getting more than 40,000 new cases per day and it's accelerating. A 76% increase over the past 14 days. This isn't over, or do you claim it's done and dusted?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd as a leader has done a worse job than most of the rest of the world, and the spike in cases is still on the uptick. As a matter of fact the new cases per day are higher now than they were in April.
You have no moral standing to demand that people stay home and "flatten the curve" and nobody wants to hear the garbage coming out of your mouth anymore."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Zara View PostUntil you stop changing names, name calling, insults, using implication, among others - my post to you will reflect yours and treat you as the trash you are.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostAnd as a leader has done a worse job than most of the rest of the world, and the spike in cases is still on the uptick. As a matter of fact the new cases per day are higher now than they were in April.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostOf course "nobody" cares about the predictions since liberals didn't get the million deaths to lay at Trump's feet that they were gleefully anticipating. But as Thoughtful Monk pointed out, a comparison of per capita numbers shows that the US is doing at least as well as any other country at mitigating the China flu.
Death/1million: Italy, 575; Spain,606; USA,389. Give it another month and we will top both these countries.
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Also another reminder that multiple Democrat governors intentionally sent sick patients back into homes for the elderly to murder them because the elderly tend to vote republican. If there is any justice in this world people like Cuomo will be put on trial for crimes against humanity and brought before a firing squad."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Zero View PostYou deride those predictions.
Liberals: "A million people are going to die if we don't do something!"
The Trump administration puts a plan into place that keeps the death toll to a miniscule fraction of that.
Liberals: "Oh yeah? Well, he still did a bad job, so there!"Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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