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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's like this...
Liberals: "A million people are going to die if we don't do something!"
The Trump administration puts a plan into place that keeps the death toll to a miniscule fraction of that.
Liberals: "Oh yeah? Well, he still did a bad job, so there!"
According to my standard, you're so far from being out of the woods, current claims to 'having done a good job' are about as immature as your average post.
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Originally posted by Zero View PostAccording to your standard, has he done a bad job? Since you don't agree with the predictions - against what are you making the judgement. If it's according to his own standard, he has definitely done a bad job.
According to my standard, you're so far from being out of the woods, current claims to 'having done a good job' are about as immature as your average post.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Zara View PostI know you're old, meanwhile you continue to act like, what, 14?
Amen.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Zara View PostYawn.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAnd as a leader has done a worse job than most of the rest of the world, and the spike in cases is still on the uptick. As a matter of fact the new cases per day are higher now than they were in April.
Just wondering, do you think that the massive increase in testing might have anything to do with the number of people reported as having had the Chicom coronavirus increasing?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostFerguson and his team's modelling has been questioned but bear in mind, this isn't over yet.
Meanwhile, as increased testing finds more folks who were infected the rate in the number of fatalities is steadily decreasing.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhile the number of fatalities steadily drops.
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostIf you measure by sheer number of cases, yes. However, the US has the 3rd highest population in the world (behind China and India) so of course we are going to have more cases. D'oh.
I prefer to look at the per capita cases to see how we're doing compared to other countries. From RealClearPolitics chart: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
county: deaths per 1million pop; fatality rate on confirmed cases
US: 329.9; 4.85%
UK: 655.4; 13.97%
France: 444.5; 18.28%
Mexico: 211.2; 12.29%
Netherlands: 354.4; 12.16%
You can go read the chart for yourself. Ok, I'll agree the US doesn't have the best results in the world. But when I look at the numbers I have a hard time believing we have "one of the worst results in the world".
Whether you look at cases or fatalities, current rates or overall totals, per capita or not, the USA is near the bottom. The USA clearly has "one of the worst results in the world".Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt's all relative, and it's down to the response of individual states -- with the exception of Killer Cuomo and his sister state New Jersey, the US has done exceptionally well overall.
Deluded morons like you are getting people killed.Country/state Deaths per million New Jersey 1703 New York 1619 San Marino 1238 Connecticut 1212 Massachusetts 1174 Rhode Island 893 Belgium 840 Washington DC 781 Louisiana 690 Andorra 673 UK 642 Michigan 617 Spain 606 Italy 575 Illinois 561 Sweden 526 Maryland 525 Pennsylvania 521 Delaware 521 France 457 USA 389 Last edited by Roy; 06-30-2020, 05:21 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBut as Thoughtful Monk pointed out, a comparison of per capita numbers shows that the US is doing at least as well as any other country at mitigating the China flu.Last edited by Roy; 06-30-2020, 05:55 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostMore complete garbage. An actual comparison of per capita numbers shows the exact opposite - that almost every other country is doing better than the US, which ranks 202nd and 207th out of 213 at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
So all things considered, the US is doing very well, and we're far, far below the original predictions and models that were being tossed around in the early days.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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