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    One thing maybe was left out of the initial post's list.

    I saw a video. Sorry that much my knowledge is introduced by videos -- this happened when I was watching videos while doing homework. The video was about land where the natural plants were dying away. One's guy's perfect solution was to introduce cattle to the land. Maybe it was the fertilizer or maybe it was turning over the soil but the land was rejuvenated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I made an observation that COVID seems to have cured "Climate Change"

    All of a sudden, "Climate Change" has dropped to the background, and has pretty much become a non-issue, as all of its apologists seem to be embattled in the raging COVID battle.

    For those who miss our polite and reasonable discussions on Climate Change, here's a new topic...

    On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare


    On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.

    I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.

    But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.

    Here are some facts few people know:

    Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”

    The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”

    Climate change is not making natural disasters worse

    Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003

    The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska

    The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California

    Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s

    Netherlands became rich not poor while adapting to life below sea level

    We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter

    Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change

    Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels

    Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture

    I know that the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism.

    In reality, the above facts come from the best-available scientific studies, including those conducted by or accepted by the IPCC, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and other leading scientific bodies.

    Some people will, when they read this imagine that I’m some right-wing anti-environmentalist. I’m not. At 17, I lived in Nicaragua to show solidarity with the Sandinista socialist revolution. At 23 I raised money for Guatemalan women’s cooperatives. In my early 20s I lived in the semi-Amazon doing research with small farmers fighting land invasions. At 26 I helped expose poor conditions at Nike factories in Asia.

    I became an environmentalist at 16 when I threw a fundraiser for Rainforest Action Network. At 27 I helped save the last unprotected ancient redwoods in California. In my 30s I advocated renewables and successfully helped persuade the Obama administration to invest $90 billion into them. Over the last few years I helped save enough nuclear plants from being replaced by fossil fuels to prevent a sharp increase in emissions

    But until last year, I mostly avoided speaking out against the climate scare. Partly that’s because I was embarrassed. After all, I am as guilty of alarmism as any other environmentalist. For years, I referred to climate change as an “existential” threat to human civilization, and called it a “crisis.”

    But mostly I was scared..................

    Not a reliable scientific source. This only a rambling assertions without a basis in science. Sounds like a born again anti-science evangelists. Nothing here in terms of science to respond to. No peer review literature cited. The experience he cited have nothing to do with credentials in the sciences related to 'Global Warming.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossrose View Post
    Actually, I expect the alarmists will be along promptly to tell us that the writer of the piece is obviously not a real scientist and therefore the entire thing can be pooh-poohed and dismissed out of hand.
    3...2...1.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Not a reliable scientific source. This only a rambling assertions without a basis in science. Sounds like a born again anti-science evangelists. Nothing here in terms of science to respond to. No peer review literature cited. The experience he cited have nothing to do with credentials in the sciences related to 'Global Warming.'
    Bingo, mossy!
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  4. Amen mossrose, RumTumTugger amen'd this post.
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    As long as there is growth, on average, there is also an infinite supply of money in the future and therefore we can borrow as much as we want. We can afford any future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    3...2...1.....



    Bingo, mossy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    As long as there is growth, on average, there is also an infinite supply of money in the future and therefore we can borrow as much as we want. We can afford any future.
    It's ABOUT TIME the voice of reason shared his uber wisdom with us!

    Good to see you, ff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I made an observation that COVID seems to have cured "Climate Change"

    All of a sudden, "Climate Change" has dropped to the background, and has pretty much become a non-issue, as all of its apologists seem to be embattled in the raging COVID battle.

    For those who miss our polite and reasonable discussions on Climate Change, here's a new topic...

    On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare
    I forgive him. But then, I was never scared.

  9. Amen mossrose, RumTumTugger amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronson View Post
    I forgive him. But then, I was never scared.
    Me too, neither.
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  11. Amen mossrose, Ronson, RumTumTugger amen'd this post.
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    Me, three.

    That's because I know Who's in charge!


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  13. Amen RumTumTugger amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It's ABOUT TIME the voice of reason shared his uber wisdom with us!

    Good to see you, ff.
    Such great wisdom must be used sparingly; to avoid alarm. I am always up for a chat CP. I hope you are keeping well. I see the cows.

    A friend hereabouts has been trapping magpies because they eat the little songbirds. Someone comes to humanely kill them.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell

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