Can Leftists Be More Hypocritical...

[seer]

You mean that unarmed black men aren't repeatedly being killed by the police without the shooters being brought to justice?

And that doesn't happen to white men? And over all twice as many whites are killed a year than blacks. Yes there is a higher percentage of blacks killed, but higher violent crime rates in black communities more than account for that. For instance blacks are 13% of the population but commit 49-51% of all murders.

[Watermelon]

And that doesn't happen to white men? And over all twice as many whites are killed a year than blacks. Yes there is a higher percentage of blacks killed, but higher violent crime rates in black communities more than account for that. For instance blacks are 13% of the population but commit 49-51% of all murders.

But why do blacks commit such a large proportion of murders? Are they just inherently more violent?

[rogue06]

But why do blacks commit such a large proportion of murders? Are they just inherently more violent?

If you're constantly being told that it isn't really your fault and that you're not responsible for your actions... IOW, the consequences of the left's soft racism?

[LeaC]

Again, the opinions of the majority of BLM supporters trump yours on this.

"The bandwagon fallacy is also sometimes called the appeal to common belief or appeal to the masses because it’s all about getting people to do or think something because “everyone else is doing it” or “everything else thinks this.”"

There are more white people who are killed unjustly by the police each year than black. There is a higher percentage of black people being killed based on population percentages, but there is also a higher chance that a black person will live in an area prone to criminal behavior. The reasons for that are complex and historical, and can't be summed up in a single paragraph. In either case, the actual numbers of anyone of any race being killed unjustly by the police is tiny. Far more are killed in homicides, far more black children are starving, far more black women are held in sexual slavery in America.

But none of that fuels the rage-driven campaign of the dangerous political movement known as Black Lives Matter. By placing a hyper-focus on the very few incidents of genuine tragedy, they can dupe well-meaning leftists into supporting the murder of uninvolved police officers(as a liberal person I spoke to just today stated outright, unambiguously). Or defunding the police - which will make communities less safe and lead to less training, less funding, and make it more likely that only bad cops will be hired. Which fixes the supposed problem... how? Or we can replace them with a different type of officer that supports and enforces BLM's extremist political agenda. Or destroy statues and monuments, including those funded by emancipated slaves. How many deaths were prevented by a statue toppling?

The only ones who benefit from any of this is the political movement driving it - whose beliefs the vast majority of people are wholly ignorant about - and white people who enjoy self-flagellation over actual work and change.

[seer]

But why do blacks commit such a large proportion of murders? Are they just inherently more violent?

It is a cultural thing. Black communities were not nearly this violent 60-70 years ago, when blacks had it much worse. I think a lot has to do with fatherless homes - 70% (it was 20% back in the 50s, 60s). And I think that had a lot to with the Great Society social welfare programs. I believe that decimated the black family (and poor white families to a lesser degree), and I don't know how to fix that.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Black Lives Matter is based on a false belief. There is no white against black racism epidemic issue in the US.

From Aristophanes' The Birds

LEADER OF THE CHORUS
Let's see. What shall our city be called?

PITHETAERUS
Will you have a high-sounding Laconian name? Shall we call it Sparta?

EUELPIDES
What! call my town Sparta? Why, I would not use esparto for my bed, even though I had nothing but bands of rushes.

PITHETAERUS
Well then, what name can you suggest?

EUELPIDES
Some name borrowed from the clouds, from these lofty regions in which we dwell-in short, some well-known name.

PITHETAERUS
Do you like Nephelococcygia?

[Nephelococcygia translated by Cary as Cloud Cuckoo Land]

[shunyadragon]

Black Lives Matter is based on a false belief. There is no white against black racism epidemic issue in the US.

Epidemic issue?!?!? Racism has been a pandemic against blacks for over 200 years.

[seer]

Epidemic issue?!?!? Racism has been a pandemic against blacks for over 200 years.

Nonsense, BLM is based on the false narrative that there is systemic racism in the police services. That is a lie...

[shunyadragon]

Nonsense, BLM is based on the false narrative that there is systemic racism in the police services. That is a lie...

It is documented as true. This is only part of a long history of racism in society, government and the justice system.

[seer]

It is documented as true. This is only part of a long history of racism in society, government and the justice system.

What is documented as true? Evidence please?

[seanD]

"The bandwagon fallacy is also sometimes called the appeal to common belief or appeal to the masses because it’s all about getting people to do or think something because “everyone else is doing it” or “everything else thinks this.”"

There are more white people who are killed unjustly by the police each year than black. There is a higher percentage of black people being killed based on population percentages, but there is also a higher chance that a black person will live in an area prone to criminal behavior. The reasons for that are complex and historical, and can't be summed up in a single paragraph. In either case, the actual numbers of anyone of any race being killed unjustly by the police is tiny. Far more are killed in homicides, far more black children are starving, far more black women are held in sexual slavery in America.

But none of that fuels the rage-driven campaign of the dangerous political movement known as Black Lives Matter. By placing a hyper-focus on the very few incidents of genuine tragedy, they can dupe well-meaning leftists into supporting the murder of uninvolved police officers(as a liberal person I spoke to just today stated outright, unambiguously). Or defunding the police - which will make communities less safe and lead to less training, less funding, and make it more likely that only bad cops will be hired. Which fixes the supposed problem... how? Or we can replace them with a different type of officer that supports and enforces BLM's extremist political agenda. Or destroy statues and monuments, including those funded by emancipated slaves. How many deaths were prevented by a statue toppling?

The only ones who benefit from any of this is the political movement driving it - whose beliefs the vast majority of people are wholly ignorant about - and white people who enjoy self-flagellation over actual work and change.

The way WM will respond to this masterful post is he'll break it apart and omit large swaths of the points and facts you just made, create strawmen, and misconstrue all the points you just made.

[Cow Poke]

The fact that so many people are protesting shows it’s not a false belief....

No, all it means is that the "flash mob" cabability of the internet age can turn ugly.

[seanD]

Epidemic issue?!?!? Racism has been a pandemic against blacks for over 200 years.

We had the first black president who served for 8 years. We have black folks that represent both the House and the Senate. We have black mayors and city council folks. Yes, there is racism and always will be, but there is no anti-black racism epidemic in our modern time. Doesn't exist. There are as many opportunities for blacks as there are for every other race, including whites. Most issues exist within the black community itself and is self-inflicted. Now if you want to discuss the classism issue (this gets confused with racism), there's definitely that, and that's a major problem, but a totally different issue because it's not exclusively a problem for black people.

[Cow Poke]

Epidemic issue?!?!? Racism has been a pandemic against blacks for over 200 years.

Is EVERYTHING a pandemic now?

[Cow Poke]

Lemme clear this up for you, Sean....

Black Lives Matter is based on a false belief....

It is documented as true. .....

What is documented as true? Evidence please?

Shuny, in his own charming and eloquent way, is agreeing with your first statement!



(OK, I'm kidding)