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  • Another possible pandemic from China

    China researchers discover new swine flu with 'pandemic potential'

    (CNN)Chinese researchers have discovered a new type of swine flu that can infect humans and has the potential to cause a future pandemic, according to a study released on Monday, though scientists have cautioned that the virus does not pose an immediate global health threat.
    The disease, which researchers called the G4 virus, is genetically descended from the H1N1 swine flu that caused a pandemic in 2009. G4 now shows "all the essential hallmarks of a candidate pandemic virus," said the study, published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).
    But Dr. Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University's public health school, warned the public not to "freak out."
    "Our understanding of what is a potential pandemic influenza strain is limited," she posted on Twitter. "Sure, this virus meets a lot of the basic criteria but it's not for sure going to cause a hypothetical 2020 flu pandemic, or even be a dominant strain in humans."
    ...Further tests showed that G4 can infect humans by binding to our cells and receptors, and it can replicate quickly inside our airway cells. And though G4 holds H1N1 genes, people who have received seasonal flu vaccines won't have any immunity.
    G4 already appears to have infected humans in China. In Hebei and Shandong provinces, both places with high pig numbers, more than 10% of swine workers on pig farms and 4.4% of the general population tested positive in a survey from 2016 to 2018.
    There is no evidence yet that G4 could spread from person to person -- perhaps the most promising sign so far, said Carl Bergstrom, a professor of biology at the University of Washington.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/asia/...scn/index.html
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    So again they say it doesn't spread from person to person and poses no threat, yet. Sounds familiar.

    Can we put the Great Wall of China all the way around China yet?


  • #2
    I saw this yesterday, I think. Well, I'd say we're pretty screwed now if this develops any further.

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    • #3
      China needs to stay home until they are no longer sick.
      If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Seeker View Post
        I saw this yesterday, I think. Well, I'd say we're pretty screwed now if this develops any further.
        you can take appropriate measures like most countries did for Covid and get out of it relatively unscathed OR you can downplay the threat and hope it just goes away and if it happens to spread uncontrollably throughout the US then keep blaming China. Rest assured though since only having a quarter of all worldwide deaths would still mean you did a ‘fantastic’ job!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
          you can take appropriate measures like most countries did for Covid and get out of it relatively unscathed OR you can downplay the threat and hope it just goes away and if it happens to spread uncontrollably throughout the US then keep blaming China. Rest assured though since only having a quarter of all worldwide deaths would still mean you did a ‘fantastic’ job!
          Tell me, what exactly did Obama do during the last swine flu? We were just lucky that it wasn't that deadly.
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            So again they say it doesn't spread from person to person and poses no threat, yet. Sounds familiar.

            Can we put the Great Wall of China all the way around China yet?
            Book of Revelation?
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
              you can take appropriate measures like most countries did for Covid
              We can't tank a shut down like this that often.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Watermelon View Post
                you can take appropriate measures like most countries did for Covid and get out of it relatively unscathed OR you can downplay the threat and hope it just goes away and if it happens to spread uncontrollably throughout the US then keep blaming China. Rest assured though since only having a quarter of all worldwide deaths would still mean you did a ‘fantastic’ job!
                Almost every new disease pandemic in the last 80 some years has come from China. At what point do we decide the rest of the world needs to social distance themselves from China permanently?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Tell me, what exactly did Obama do during the last swine flu? We were just lucky that it wasn't that deadly.
                  He proactively and aggressively followed all the advice of his science advisors.

                  Flues are much better known, and the development of vaccines is far more advanced than COVID-19, because it is new with unknowns. They are always developing flu viruses to account for all the possible most dangerous variations.

                  Nonetheless vaccines are not the cure all for viruses. Every year many dies from flu, but it is a cyclic known commodity.
                  Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-02-2020, 05:55 PM.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                    China needs to stay home until they are no longer sick.
                    Very odd perplexing comment, and not meaningful.

                    It is not the Chines, but the animals that are source of the viruses. Not all epidemics and pandemics begin in China.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • #11
                      Oh look. Now they have the Bubonic Plague...

                      Bubonic plague case diagnosed in China, officials say
                      https://fox59.com/news/national-worl...officials-say/

                      Seriously? smh.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Oh look. Now they have the Bubonic Plague...

                        Bubonic plague case diagnosed in China, officials say
                        https://fox59.com/news/national-worl...officials-say/

                        Seriously? smh.
                        Not having looked this up, isn't bubonic the plague that can sit dormant in soil? Or am I thinking about anthrax?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                          Not having looked this up, isn't bubonic the plague that can sit dormant in soil? Or am I thinking about anthrax?
                          sounds like anthrax. It dries up into spores that can last for years.

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                          • #14
                            Bubonic plague is worldwide and pops up often, even in the USA in 1924. This site has good maps and graphs.

                            Source: https://www.cdc.gov/plague/maps/index.html



                            Maps and Statistics Plague in the United States

                            Plague was first introduced into the United States in 1900, by rat–infested steamships that had sailed from affected areas, mostly from Asia. Epidemics occurred in port cities. The last urban plague epidemic in the United States occurred in Los Angeles from 1924 through 1925. Plague then spread from urban rats to rural rodent species, and became entrenched in many areas of the western United States. Since that time, plague has occurred as scattered cases in rural areas. Most human cases in the United States occur in two regions:

                            Northern New Mexico, northern Arizona, and southern Colorado
                            California, southern Oregon, and far western Nevada

                            Over 80% of United States plague cases have been the bubonic form. In recent decades, an average of seven human plague cases have been reported each year (range: 1–17 cases per year). Plague has occurred in people of all ages (infants up to age 96), though 50% of cases occur in people ages 12–45. It occurs in both men and women, though historically is slightly more common among men, probably because of increased outdoor activities that put them at higher risk.

                            Human plague cases in the United States, 1970-2018. All naturally occurring cases of human plague occur in the western United States, with a majority of cases clustering in northern New Mexico and Arizona and southern Colorado.

                            Since the mid–20th century, plague in the United States has typically occurred in the rural West. The case shown in Illinois was lab-associated.

                            Human Plague Cases and Deaths - United States, 2000-2018

                            Graph showing human plague cases and deaths in the United States, 2000 to 2018. There were 6 cases in 2000, 2 in 2001, 2 in 2002, 1 in 2003, 3 in 2004 with 1 death, 17 in 2006 with 2 deaths, 7 in 2007 with 2 deaths, 3 in 2008, 8 in 2009 with 2 deaths, 2 in 2010, 3 in 2011, 4 in 2012, 4 in 2013 with 1 death, 10 in 2014, 16 with 4 deaths in 2015, 4 cases in 2016, and 5 cases in 2017.

                            In recent decades, an average of seven human plague cases have been reported each year (range: 1–17 cases per year).

                            Number of Reported Confirmed and Probable Plague Cases per Year in the United States: 1900-2012
                            Human plague cases and deaths in the United States, 2000 to 2014

                            Between 1900 and 2012, 1006 confirmed or probable human plague cases occurred in the United States.

                            Plague Worldwide

                            Plague epidemics have occurred in Africa, Asia, and South America but most human cases since the 1990s have occurred in Africa. Almost all of the cases reported in the last 20 years have occurred among people living in small towns and villages or agricultural areas rather than in larger towns and cities.

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                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Oh look. Now they have the Bubonic Plague...

                              Bubonic plague case diagnosed in China, officials say
                              https://fox59.com/news/national-worl...officials-say/

                              Seriously? smh.
                              Yes and leprosy is around still as well. Amazing isn't it?

                              Wait around for long enough and smallpox may possibly make its comeback, particularly if the idiots who are anti-vaxx have their way.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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