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What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

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  • What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

    What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

    The incident is the third mysterious explosion in a week and has led to many questions.

    The plot thickened on Thursday afternoon hours after a building at a nuclear facility looked to have blown up in Iran. Reports of a “explosive device planted,” and an early warning, as well as a dissident group taking responsibility now adds to questions and concerns about what happened at the sensitive site.

    The building affected by some kind of an explosion is located at the Natanz nuclear enrichment facility. Iran had alerted the world to the incident in the morning of July 2 and even took state media for a tour to show that while there had been some kind of incident, the nuclear facility was not in danger. It is the third mysterious explosion in a week and has led to many questions.

    The New York Times reported that "a Middle Eastern intelligence official...said the blast was caused by an explosive device planted inside the facility. The explosion, he said, destroyed much of the above ground parts of the facility.”

    This is important because it was allegedly the above ground portion of a larger area where new centrifuges are “balanced before they are put into operations.” Iran is known for building underground facilities that obscure or protect their activities, including at missile and nuclear sites.

    It now looks increasingly likely the incident was deliberate, an attack of act of sabotage. Adding to the question of how this happened, a group called the “Homeland Panthers” claimed responsibility, according to emails allegedly sent to BBC Persian. The emails arrived “hours before any news of the incident had emerged,” according to Radio Farda. The emails however claimed something more complex. They asserted there was an attack and then a cover up. They wanted to blow the lid on the cover up.

    When did the attack happen?

    Around two in the morning on July 2. It was not widely reported in Iranian media until some eight hours later. IRIB News gave a tour of the area that was burned in the afternoon. The Associated Press noted that the US National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration has data from a satellite tracking fires that shows a fire at around 2 a.m. This corresponds with someone on the ground who allegedly heard an explosion.
    .....
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Mossad
    When I Survey....

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Faber View Post
      Mossad
      That's where the finger is pointing, to be sure.

      Israel said bracing for retaliation as Tehran points fingers over nuke site fire
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        It's probably them or an ally of them. No existing nuclear power wants other nations to become nuclear powers.

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        • #5
          And in I’m fine with Iran not getting access to warheads.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            It's probably them or an ally of them. No existing nuclear power wants other nations to become nuclear powers.
            In the past, we would publicly scold Israel for doing such, but privately pat them on the back.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Report: Israeli cyberattack caused Iran nuclear site fire, F35s hit missile base

              Kuwaiti newspaper cites unnamed senior source as saying Jerusalem behind recent incidents in Iran, following an alleged attempt by Tehran to hack Israel’s water infrastructure.

              Israel was responsible for two blasts at Iranian facilities — one related to uranium enrichment, the other for missile production — over the past week, a Kuwaiti newspaper reported Friday.

              The Al-Jareeda daily cited an unnamed senior source as saying that an Israeli cyberattack caused a fire and explosion at the largely underground Natanz nuclear enrichment facility in the predawn hours of Thursday morning.

              According to the source, this was expected to set back Iran’s nuclear enrichment program by approximately two months.

              The newspaper also reported that last Friday Israeli F-35 stealth fighter jets bombed a site located in the area of Parchin, which is believed to house a missile production complex — an area of particular concern for the Jewish state, in light of the large number and increasing sophistication of missiles and rockets in the arsenals of Iranian proxies, notably Lebanon’s Hezbollah.

              The reported Israeli strikes followed an alleged Iranian attempt to hack into Israel’s water infrastructure in April, an effort that was thwarted by Israeli cyber defenses, but if successful could have introduced dangerous levels of chlorine into the Israeli water supply and otherwise seriously interrupted the flow of water throughout the country. .....
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                In the past, we would publicly scold Israel for doing such, but privately pat them on the back.
                I’m reasonably confident that Israel won’t use them outside of a narrow and dire set of circumstances.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  I’m reasonably confident that Israel won’t use them outside of a narrow and dire set of circumstances.
                  I was talking about Israel affecting Iran's nuclear program, if, indeed, they did that.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I was talking about Israel affecting Iran's nuclear program, if, indeed, they did that.
                    I wouldn't be surprised if they did that, and I don't know if I'd even condemn those actions.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      I wouldn't be surprised if they did that, and I don't know if I'd even condemn those actions.
                      Yeah, what I was getting at was that, in the past, the US would publicly condemn such actions, but privately congratulate them.

                      In fact, we often provided assistance, intelligence or whatever.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        It's probably them or an ally of them. No existing nuclear power wants other nations to become nuclear powers.
                        Quite. Israel wants to be the only nuclear power in that region [while of course never completely admitting it has them]!
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                          Quite. Israel wants to be the only nuclear power in that region.
                          Generally a better option. They maintain ambiguity about their arsenal. No threats are issued with them and they have built a military strategy around conventional weapons indicating they want to avoid using them.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                            Generally a better option. They maintain ambiguity about their arsenal. No threats are issued with them and they have built a military strategy around conventional weapons indicating they want to avoid using them.
                            And they have proven themselves quite proficient in cyber warfare.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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