It does matter if elections officials are racist because that casts a pall over the legitimacy of elections. In North Carolina, the state Republican Party was caught discussing their gerrymandering specifically aimed at black voters... to say that this doesn't matter because there will always be racism is cynicism that I don't see a reason a Christian should accept.
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"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by whag View PostNo, I simply mean MLK understands why riots happen,
while you seem to be threatened by it.
I expect pastors
to be a little more informed about what happens when the consequences of evil national acts carry over to the next generation and sick societies crumble.
Isn’t this what you were expecting as a pastor who preaches on eschatology?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostPeople shouldn't feel threatened by riots?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt does matter if elections officials are racist because that casts a pall over the legitimacy of elections. In North Carolina, the state Republican Party was caught discussing their gerrymandering specifically aimed at black voters... to say that this doesn't matter because there will always be racism is cynicism that I don't see a reason a Christian should accept.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIt does matter if elections officials are racist because that casts a pall over the legitimacy of elections. In North Carolina, the state Republican Party was caught discussing their gerrymandering specifically aimed at black voters... to say that this doesn't matter because there will always be racism is cynicism that I don't see a reason a Christian should accept.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe fact she made it public makes it doubtful she'll do anything underhanded. And if she does, that just makes her culpable. But the fact she's racist doesn't validate BLM and their lie that racism is nationally systemic. That was whag's point posting it in this thread. Racism is a thing. Systemic racism is not a thing. You guys are confusing the two.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIn North Carolina, the state Republican Party was caught discussing their gerrymandering specifically aimed at black voters... to say that this doesn't matter because there will always be racism is cynicism that I don't see a reason a Christian should accept.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Some in the Left-leaning media are starting to come to their senses. They're actually looking at (gasp) the statistics!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3235072001/
There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans
Ideally officers would never need to take anyone's life. But the data on police killings doesn't support reducing or abolishing law enforcement.
Heather Mac DonaldOpinion contributor
The video of George Floyd’s tragic death under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer has led many to ask whether it represents the tip of an iceberg of police brutality. For centuries, United States law enforcement was interwoven with slavery and segregation, and that memory cannot be easily erased. But the evidence does not support the charge that biased police are systematically killing Black Americans in fatal shootings.
Much of modern policing is driven by crime data and community demands for help. The African American community tends to be policed more heavily, because that is where people are disproportionately hurt by violent street crime. In New York City in 2018, 73% of shooting victims were Black, though Black residents comprise only 24% of the city’s population.
Nationally, African Americans between the ages of 10 and 34 die from homicide at 13 times the rate of white Americans, according to researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Justice Department.
Community requests also determine police deployment, and the most urgent requests often come from law-abiding residents of high-crime neighborhoods.
An elderly resident in the Mount Hope neighborhood of the Bronx once described to me her fear of entering her building lobby, since it was so often occupied by trespassing youth hanging out and selling drugs. The only time she felt safe was when law enforcement was around: As long as she saw the police, she told me, everything is OK. You can come down and get your mail and talk to decent people...
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSome in the Left-leaning media are starting to come to their senses. They're actually looking at (gasp) the statistics!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3235072001/
There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans
Ideally officers would never need to take anyone's life. But the data on police killings doesn't support reducing or abolishing law enforcement.
Heather Mac DonaldOpinion contributor
The video of George Floyd’s tragic death under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer has led many to ask whether it represents the tip of an iceberg of police brutality. For centuries, United States law enforcement was interwoven with slavery and segregation, and that memory cannot be easily erased. But the evidence does not support the charge that biased police are systematically killing Black Americans in fatal shootings.
Much of modern policing is driven by crime data and community demands for help. The African American community tends to be policed more heavily, because that is where people are disproportionately hurt by violent street crime. In New York City in 2018, 73% of shooting victims were Black, though Black residents comprise only 24% of the city’s population.
Nationally, African Americans between the ages of 10 and 34 die from homicide at 13 times the rate of white Americans, according to researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Justice Department.
Community requests also determine police deployment, and the most urgent requests often come from law-abiding residents of high-crime neighborhoods.
An elderly resident in the Mount Hope neighborhood of the Bronx once described to me her fear of entering her building lobby, since it was so often occupied by trespassing youth hanging out and selling drugs. The only time she felt safe was when law enforcement was around: As long as she saw the police, she told me, everything is OK. You can come down and get your mail and talk to decent people...
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSome in the Left-leaning media are starting to come to their senses. They're actually looking at (gasp) the statistics!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3235072001/
There is no epidemic of fatal police shootings against unarmed Black Americans
Ideally officers would never need to take anyone's life. But the data on police killings doesn't support reducing or abolishing law enforcement.
Heather Mac DonaldOpinion contributor
The video of George Floyd’s tragic death under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer has led many to ask whether it represents the tip of an iceberg of police brutality. For centuries, United States law enforcement was interwoven with slavery and segregation, and that memory cannot be easily erased. But the evidence does not support the charge that biased police are systematically killing Black Americans in fatal shootings.
Much of modern policing is driven by crime data and community demands for help. The African American community tends to be policed more heavily, because that is where people are disproportionately hurt by violent street crime. In New York City in 2018, 73% of shooting victims were Black, though Black residents comprise only 24% of the city’s population.
Nationally, African Americans between the ages of 10 and 34 die from homicide at 13 times the rate of white Americans, according to researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Justice Department.
Community requests also determine police deployment, and the most urgent requests often come from law-abiding residents of high-crime neighborhoods.
An elderly resident in the Mount Hope neighborhood of the Bronx once described to me her fear of entering her building lobby, since it was so often occupied by trespassing youth hanging out and selling drugs. The only time she felt safe was when law enforcement was around: As long as she saw the police, she told me, everything is OK. You can come down and get your mail and talk to decent people...
Posted this while the Ferguson shooting was still hot
Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
Only one problem with that. Blacks who only constitute 13% of the population commit nearly 50% of the crime. So one can concluded that police confrontations are roughly equal. And yet, whites are more likely to be killed as a result of such a confrontation. This has been confirmed by research conducted at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, which shows that approximately 49% of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30% were black.
Likewise, a study by Washington State University-Spokane's Department of Criminal Justice and Criminology concluded that police "were less likely to erroneously shoot unarmed black suspects than they were unarmed whites — 25 times less likely" as well as "officers hesitated significantly longer before shooting armed suspects who were black, compared to armed subjects who were white or Hispanic."
ProPublica, which has won two Pulitzer Prizes (the first online news organization to win one) along with several other awards, conducted a similar study utilizing FBI data from 1980-2012 and came to similar conclusions.
PolitiFact looked into the claim and used statistics provided by the CDC and concluded that 2151 whites died by being shot by police compared to 1130 blacks between 1999 and 2011.
Again, keep in mind, since blacks are essentially responsible for half of the violent crimes committed in the U.S. there is going to be roughly an equal number of confrontations. And if you believe the hype from black activists that blacks are far more likely (one claimed something like ten times more likely) to be stopped by the police, then blacks have more encounters with the police in total meaning that these statistics are even more startling.
I guess we should be expecting massive protests about how "White Lives Matter" any day now.
And the Washington Times recently ran this:
Wrt the last statistic, a recent study that a black person living in Chicago has an 1.13 in 1000 chance of being shot. Period. Funny how groups like Black Lives Matter and liberal politicians aren't up in arms (no pun intended) about this. But then they can't blame whites, or the police or give their typical knee jerk reaction of demanding stricter gun control since Chicago already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.
Here's an article for the left to studiously ignore: 5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks
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