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  • #31
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Yes. because the fatalities were under reported.
    If anything, China flu deaths are over reported, because someone who dies "with" the China flu or is suspected to have had it based only on symptoms is cataloged as having died "from" the Wuhan virus regardless of the actual cause of death.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      If anything, China flu deaths are over reported, because someone who dies "with" the China flu or is suspected to have had it based only on symptoms is cataloged as having died "from" the Wuhan virus regardless of the actual cause of death.
      Wife: Honey, do you think Covid has made me fatter?
      Husband: No fatter than before Covid.
      Funeral will be Tuesday at 10 AM.
      Cause of Death - Covid.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Well, the recoveries certainly are! They barely ever get a mention.
        Well the Chinese did publicize the recovers with great fanfare, but yes underestimated the fatalities by at least 200 to 300%.

        And, since the newer cases seem to be largely YOUNGER people, you may be disappointed to see the death rate not rise as dramatically as you might hope.
        Very much a separate issue. In fact I predicted not only the June surge in cases and hospitalization, but also the severity and fatality rate will drop off as the pandemic progresses. The pandemic will most likely naturally fade before the November election, and possibly disappear. I also predicted that Trump will do victory dances claiming he defeated the virus like China did, and he has done nothing meaningful to impact the extent and severity of the pandemic.

        It is possible like in other countries the later second surge is due to more younger people getting infected.
        Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-06-2020, 05:26 PM.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          Well the Chinese did publicize the recovers with great fanfare, but yes underestimated the fatalities by at least 200 to 300%.
          Why do you suppose they did that, Shuny?

          Very much a separate issue.
          Nope - very much a RELATED issue.

          In fact I predicted not only the June surge in cases and hospitalization, but also the severity and fatality rate will drop off as the pandemic progresses. The pandemic will most likely naturally fade before the November election, and possibly disappear. I also predicted that Trump will do victory dances claiming he defeated the virus like China did, and he has done nothing meaningful to impact the extent and severity of the pandemic.
          Wow, you just might lose your Gloom and Doom badge!
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Do you dispute that 99% of affected people recover?
            Whether they recover “fully” is still not known given how the diseases can ravage they respiratory system.

            Here’s Neal Cavuto challenging Trump’s typical superlative exaggeration:

            https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-ne...claim?ref=home

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Why do you suppose they did that, Shuny?
              . . . because like Trump and the Brazilian president they are playing the political card with the data to cover their political butt, and will do the victory dance when it fades naturally.

              Nope - very much a RELATED issue.
              Not really, but nonetheless I addressed it.

              Wow, you just might lose your Gloom and Doom badge!
              No doom and gloom here, just the facts.

              The reality is the IFR (fatality rate) is unknown still awaiting better data. The data may be 1% or there abouts up to 3-5 percent in different areas of the globe estimates, because of the large number of mild and asymptomatic cases. The tragedy is the much greater death rate among serious and hospital cases than the flu, and the tens of thousands of slow and painful recoveries in the USA alone.

              The bottom line is it is not 99% harmless.
              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

              go with the flow the river knows . . .

              Frank

              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                The bottom line is it is not 99% harmless.
                No argument.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  If anything, China flu deaths are over reported, because someone who dies "with" the China flu or is suspected to have had it based only on symptoms is cataloged as having died "from" the Wuhan virus regardless of the actual cause of death.
                  The direct evidence of over two times the order of burial urns in Wuhan alone over the reported casualties tells a different story.
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    The direct evidence of over two times the order of burial urns in Wuhan alone over the reported casualties tells a different story.
                    I thought you didn't trust China.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      If anything, China flu deaths are over reported, because someone who dies "with" the China flu or is suspected to have had it based only on symptoms is cataloged as having died "from" the Wuhan virus regardless of the actual cause of death.
                      Flu? There is no China flu pandemic presently in China.
                      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                      go with the flow the river knows . . .

                      Frank

                      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        I thought you didn't trust China.
                        I don't, but based on you posts, you apparently do.

                        The number of burial urns is factual report not publicized by the US government.
                        Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-07-2020, 08:07 AM.
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          I thought you didn't trust China.
                          Since China's numbers about itself make China look worse, there's no reason to distrust them. If anything, China's gonna low-ball it...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                            I don't, but based on you posts, you apparently do.
                            Seeing how I've not said one word about trusting China's numbers, I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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