Roger Ailes: Elephant in the War Room

[whag]

I didn't say they DIDN'T criticize Bush in the aftermath. It's what they've got to do; they have to feign like they're anti-war liberals. But you said "drum for a literal invasion of another country" in the OP. That implies pre-war reaction, and that's what I was addressing. I'll let you carry on with your troll fest Ailes obsession.

[Ronson]

Sex is a powerful part of the deception regardless whether fundamentalists of non-Christian religions decry it. Ailes admitted he did it to titillate conservative men.

CNN and MSNBC are bad sources for news. FOX too, but for more bizarre reasons that relate to sex and the subconscious. Hence, illuminated legs.

I don't really see much of Fox or any TV news channels, but I don't recall any of them showing legs. What are you even talking about? Almost everyone is shown from the shoulders up.

ETA: OK, I found some legs. Ooops, NBC

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[whag]

I don't really see much of Fox or any TV news channels, but I don't recall any of them showing legs. What are you even talking about? Almost everyone is shown from the shoulders up.

ETA: OK, I found some legs. Ooops, NBC

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He also pioneered under desk lights:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...nd/2146254002/

Of course, I totally appreciate this being completely normal and seeing nothing wrong with sexual fantasization.

What's creepy is the man decried the pornographication of America by perverted liberal elites. He was a man of God, you see.

[Cow Poke]

Hence why you ask the females in your church to wear more revealing dresses to attract more male congregants.

Ya know, whag, just about the time I think you're a decent guy, you post this kind of crap. Weren't you one of the guys who was mocking me for adhering to the Billy Graham rule?

You do realize that Fox News is not a Church, and Ailes is not a pastor, yes?

He runs a business that earns its money from viewers watching, and "sex sells".

[whag]

Ya know, whag, just about the time I think you're a decent guy, you post this kind of crap. Weren't you one of the guys who was mocking me for adhering to the Billy Graham rule?

What? I wasn't saying you did that! I was being sarcastic by saying there's no comparison to "appreciating the female form" and what Ailes has admitted doing to titillate male Christian viewers.

And I do remember that Graham thing, and if I said what I think I did, I humbly apologize.

You do realize that Fox News is not a Church, and Ailes is not a pastor, yes?

Yes, but I also point out the comedy of his advocating family values while instigating erections. The family values thing is meant to deceive right wing nutters. I thought you were okay with highlighting ideological nuttery on all sides.

He runs a business that earns its money from viewers watching, and "sex sells".

Exactly. And that's okay provided the purveyor of sex isn't also decrying the pornographication of the nation by liberal elites.

[Cow Poke]

What? I wasn't saying you did that! I was being sarcastic by saying there's no comparison to "appreciating the female form" and what Ailes has admitted doing to titillate male Christian viewers.

I was HOPING it was sarcasm, but, sheeeeeesh, these days ya never know.

And I do remember that Graham thing, and if I said what I think I did, I humbly apologize.

Accepted. I take that very personally, because the two ways pastors get in trouble have historically been sex and money.
(So far, I have a good long reputation both as a pastor and a husband of ... um.... 45 years next week! That's not by accident. )

Yes, but I also point out the comedy of his advocating family values while instigating erections. The family values thing is meant to deceive right wing nutters. I thought you were okay with highlighting ideological nuttery on all sides.

Unfortunately, it has been all to common for preachers (or conservatives) to harp on the things they're guilty of themselves.

Exactly. And that's okay provided the purveyor of sex isn't also decrying the pornographication of the nation by liberal elites.

I wasn't aware of that part - I really don't know much about Ailes except he seemed to be... um... "handsier" than Sleepy Joe by a significant factor.

[whag]

I was HOPING it was sarcasm, but, sheeeeeesh, these days ya never know.



Accepted. I take that very personally, because the two ways pastors get in trouble have historically been sex and money.
(So far, I have a good long reputation both as a pastor and a husband of ... um.... 45 years next week! That's not by accident.



Unfortunately, it has been all to common for preachers (or conservatives) to harp on the things they're guilty of themselves.



I wasn't aware of that part - I really don't know much about Ailes except he seemed to be... um... "handsier" than Sleep Joe by a significant factor.

[Cow Poke]

I have no reason not to take your word for it, and don't really care to follow up on it.

I knew I was going to get blowback on that --- I started to say something like EXPONENTIAL factor or... yeah, no defense of him whatsoever.

Again, no interest in that whatsoever, but I was aware of that situation. I mean, "The Clinton Affair" on A&E.

[Mountain Man]

It's disgusting to admire a woman's legs?

[Mountain Man]

Of course, I totally appreciate this being completely normal and seeing nothing wrong with sexual fantasization.

This, I think, says far more about you than about any of us. Apparently you can't see a woman's exposed calf without immediately having sexual fantasies, which is your problem, not ours.

[Chaotic Void]

See who says he was all bad!

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[whag]

This, I think, says far more about you than about any of us. Apparently you can't see a woman's exposed calf without immediately having sexual fantasies, which is your problem, not ours.

[Mountain Man]

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