And so goes the trope. No we did not steal the land per se, we conquered it. Exactly what native tribes were doing to each other long before the white man showed up. We just happened to be the bigger more advanced tribe. And I wonder if the leftists who are complaining about us living on stolen land are willing to give their houses and lands back to the American Indians. Or will they remain blatant hypocrites.
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd so goes the trope. No we did not steal the land per se, we conquered it. Exactly what native tribes were doing to each other long before the white man showed up. We just happened to be the bigger more advanced tribe. And I wonder if the leftists who are complaining about us living on stolen land are willing to give their houses and lands back to the American Indians. Or will they remain blatant hypocrites.
The Europeans also did it across regions of the world. However, most modern European nations feel a sense of shame at the behaviour of their predecessors."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd so goes the trope. No we did not steal the land per se, we conquered it. Exactly what native tribes were doing to each other long before the white man showed up. We just happened to be the bigger more advanced tribe. And I wonder if the leftists who are complaining about us living on stolen land are willing to give their houses and lands back to the American Indians. Or will they remain blatant hypocrites.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostPrecisely. The early Americans exercised a form of Imperialism. Colonists and settlers with vastly superior military technology moved into new territories, took them over either by massacring the indigenous peoples, driving them out, or reducing them to a subservient position.
The Europeans also did it across regions of the world. However, most modern European nations feel a sense of shame at the behaviour of their predecessors.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd so goes the trope. No we did not steal the land per se, we conquered it. Exactly what native tribes were doing to each other long before the white man showed up. We just happened to be the bigger more advanced tribe. And I wonder if the leftists who are complaining about us living on stolen land are willing to give their houses and lands back to the American Indians. Or will they remain blatant hypocrites.
If these people were serious, :), they would come up with a chart, telling everyone who owns what, so we know where to move. Who knows, I may get a better house out of it in my new European country.
I would suspect that all black lives would move to Africa, most Hispanics would move back to Spain, and whites will go wherever they are supposed to go.
Those who are biracial will need to cut themselves up and deliver themselves appropriately. I guess it will be better to be a pure bred.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostA little from column A, a little from column B...
We initially took it, then we conquered it, and then we used the law to continue taking it.
You've presented a false dichotomy...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostPrecisely. The early Americans exercised a form of Imperialism. Colonists and settlers with vastly superior military technology moved into new territories, took them over either by massacring the indigenous peoples, driving them out, or reducing them to a subservient position.
The Europeans also did it across regions of the world. However, most modern European nations feel a sense of shame at the behaviour of their predecessors.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostOriginally posted by Whateverman View PostOriginally posted by seer View PostAnd so goes the trope. No we did not steal the land per se, we conquered it.
We initially took it, then we conquered it, and then we used the law to continue taking it.
You've presented a false dichotomy...
Yes, we did steal land from native Americans. Drumpf gave a speech on stolen land this last July 4.Last edited by Whateverman; 07-07-2020, 12:00 PM.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostPrecisely. The early Americans exercised a form of Imperialism. Colonists and settlers with vastly superior military technology moved into new territories, took them over either by massacring the indigenous peoples, driving them out, or reducing them to a subservient position.
The Europeans also did it across regions of the world. However, most modern European nations feel a sense of shame at the behaviour of their predecessors.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhat part of my post was difficult to understand?
Yes, we did steal land from native Americans. Drumpf gave a speech on stolen land this last July 4.Last edited by seer; 07-07-2020, 12:18 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhat part of my post was difficult to understand?
Yes, we did steal land from native Americans. Drumpf gave a speech on stolen land this last July 4.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo what?
Sure, they weren't all singing Kumbaya when we arrived, but that doesn't change the fact that we stole land from them, and then used the government to do the same thing legally.
Originally posted by seer View PostThe land Trump was standing on what stolen from other tribes by The Lakota. Now what?
So, rather than pretend no land was stolen, now you're demanding a solution to a complicated land dispute. Fun.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostSo you said we didn't steal land from native Americans. You were wrong.
Sure, they weren't all singing Kumbaya when we arrived, but that doesn't change the fact that we stole land from them, and then used the government to do the same thing legally.
So, rather than pretend no land was stolen, now you're demanding a solution to a complicated land dispute. Fun.[/COLOR]Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWe did not do anything that the native tribes were doing to each other.
Originally posted by seer View PostDo you think the The Lakota feel a sense of shame after slaughtering the Cheyenne, Crow, Kiowa or Pawnee and taking their lands?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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