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"What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostEvery OEC I know does. If they didn't they'd be Theistic Evolutionists or Evolutionary Creationist.
I didn't want to derail this thread so I'll just conclude saying that I always labelled myself as OEC - despite not being terribly detailed.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostIMO he over analyzes the subject. Simply put: Evolution is Intelligent Design. The former is the vehicle, the tool used by God, and seen in very slow motion by us.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostA difficult concept to explain for those who believe in an omniscient, omnipotent, and benign Supreme Being.
The problem of evil is no less difficult for those who believe in a purely materialist universe, if they'd only stop to examine it; "evil" is hardly a materialist concept.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWe're getting dragged WAY off topic.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOf COURSE we're getting dragged off topic. The OP is GOOD news!Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThe problem of evil is no less difficult for those who believe in a purely materialist universe, if they'd only stop to examine it; "evil" is hardly a materialist concept.
I technically am not someone who believes in a "purely materialist universe", but I'm often portrayed that way by theists - so I'm unsure if you're referring to atheists or not. In any case, if I assume that you are referring to someone like me, and if I accept that label for the sake of discussion - I don't see how the problem of evil exists for me. At all. My relationship with the universe is amoral, and as such, any evil or goodness I (or others) experience is a function of the contents of that universe: other people, nature, governments, laws, etc ad nauseum.
The only problem with evil is that it needs to be minimized, which is often difficult to do. This is also true for theists who believe in an omnimax deity - but that's not what's being referred to as "the problem of evil"Last edited by Whateverman; 07-08-2020, 06:55 PM.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe OP is indeed good news, but a bit premature in the claim. The bad news is the history of the failure to deal effectively with the COVID-19 pandemic.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostOf COURSE we're getting dragged off topic. The OP is GOOD news!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOriginally posted by shunyThe OP is indeed good news, but a bit premature in the claim. The bad news is the history of the failure to deal effectively with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostI knew early on that we were overreacting. I could have told you masks and quarantine wouldn't help. I kept recommending chloroquine. My idea on quarantines may not have helped NYC but it would have helped the rest of the nation. And I kept promoting chloroquine because I was aware that the media and Fauci would provide disinformation.
If you believe so provide your source.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHindsight is always 20/20.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/s...57671116025857
County Medical Examiner in Corpus Christi, Texas says their morgue can no longer receive additional bodies.
Asking for a FEMA morgue trailer.
Yesterday Texas posted a new record number of deaths and nearly 2x the previous record.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere is presently no evidence that chloroquine has any significant effective cure for the COVIDE-19. The best that can be said is that it is possibly one drug for possible treatment.
If you believe so provide your source.
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