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Is Black Lives Matter Marxist? No and Yes.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat was my point CP, you didn't warn that your next step would be banning, until you banned them.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat does BLM stand for, SuperWoke Jim?
And I don't mean the letters "BLM" --- what is their platform - what are they about?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat was my point CP, you didn't warn that your next step would be banning, until you banned them.
I started by asking very politely.... FIRST REQUEST
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostCan we please take the "religion" discussion elsewhere?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI recommend the moderator of this board moves the salient posts to new threads on Apologetics 301.
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostIt took a few centuries before f.....
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI asked you politely....
As much as I don't enjoy doing it, my next step will be to formally ban you from the thread.
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostTell the others as well then. If they desist so will I.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNo, that's not how it works -
I had asked you politely, and you kept it going -- sometimes others don't see the notice until they have already responded. You knew better.
You may now leave the thread. You are entitled ONE response for the SOLE PURPOSE of agreeing to leave - that's it.
Again, this is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, but I can't let your screwed up false version stand.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou made the claim CP, "there is the "black lives matter" "movement" which is blatantly Marxist and supports NUMEROUS things blacks, in general, do not support." It's your case to make.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've made my case --- you're just too stupid to see it. It's time for YOU to show what YOU know, because I think you're absolutely ignorant of what BLM is actually all about.Last edited by JimL; 07-11-2020, 04:36 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, actually you didn't make a case at all, you merely made an unsubstantiated assertion.
And might I suggest you knock it of with ad hominem attacks CP.
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Now, have you actually been to the BLM website and seen what they believe and promote?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, I would suggest that you haven't read the thread, because that's a possibility, but I think it's just as likely that you may have read it and were more like a chicken watching a card trick.
Obviously, you don't know what an ad hominem is, but if you want me to be nicer to you,
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Now, have you actually been to the BLM website and seen what they believe and promote?Last edited by JimL; 07-11-2020, 05:03 PM.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell, I guess i'll just have to assume you have no actual case to make.
Fact is, you have NO IDEA what the agenda of the BLM movement is. You only THINK you do because you're a super-woke white dude.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you would come to such an birdbrained buttdumb assumption.
Fact is, you have NO IDEA what the agenda of the BLM movement is. You only THINK you do because you're a super-woke white dude.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThen why don't you tell us CP. You said that BLM was Marxist and that it supports things that blacks in general don't support. All I'm asking is what those things that you say "blacks in general don't support," CP?
You are contributing nothing of value to this thread.
This is my VERY POLITE request for you to tone it down, or leave.
Thank you EVER so much.
Your buddy, CPThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So, another thing I learned from my "boss" at the faith-based mission was --- when I said the BLM movement had hijacked the "black lives matter" sentiment - he very sternly corrected me, and said - NO, they didn't HIJACK it, it was Marxist right from the start.
His point was that, from the very beginning, it was a bunch of MARXISTS who discovered that, if they could "wrap themselves in black skin", nobody would have the courage to denounce them, and they could implement their agenda, which includes all of the things from their website.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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In a meeting this afternoon with my "boss", and his boss, and my police captain friend, the issue was addressed whereby it was only the black clergy who had several meetings with the various law enforcement agencies.
No white or non-black clergy invited.
It was explained to me that it was limited to black clergy, because only black clergy could understand the "black experience" with regards to interaction with police.
He (my "boss") made a lot of sense, gave some excellent recent examples (some of which I was aware) and said that was only the initial phase of "talking it out".
He explained that he intended to widen the scope, and bring in ALL the interested clergy, but the black clergy wanted to be heard.
It was a very cordial meeting, and I explained that the Sheriff and Chief both seemed to express concerns that this seemed to be more of a "what are YOU going to do......" than "how we can manage this problem.
He (my "boss") conceded that, yeah, he can understand that the Chief and Sheriff (and their command staff) would perceive it as confrontational, and would do better at framing it as a "WE" instead of "us" and "them".
I'm getting the distinct impression that there's wider support than I had imagined for BLM to be NOT welcome by the black community.
The video of my "boss" on YouTube (did I mention that here?) with what LOOKED like a Black Lives Matter t-shirt was discussed, and he gave me permission to share that video with interested parties.
I think things are really settling down in our area.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostPoint of information "she" did not "criticize" any comments. She initially wrote that “Many ideals contained within Marxist thinking would chime quite well with the compassionate aspects that are to be found within Christianity..
You replied with “ Please list the Marxist countries that have lived up to the ideals you claim they espouse,!
Given that I had not mentioned any specific Marxist regime that was purely an assumption on your part concerning my reply.
For impoverished societies where the majority of the population has been dominated by any, or all, of the following: rapacious landowners, autocracies, corrupt legislatures and judiciaries that worked for the benefit of the wealthy/aristocracy/landowners, and against the interests of the rest of the populace, or the undue influence of foreign business, as well as the denial of basic rights. Being provided with universal healthcare, education, a degree of involvement in politics, jobs and a modest standard of living might be considered by those experiencing that change, a degree of success.
As I previously noted “success” depends on how one interprets that term.
And by successful, I already said, one where the goals you states were achieved and the people were content and not living in poverty or oppression. So, where people have a good standard of living (say equivalent to Middle Class USA or Europeans) universal health care, education equivalent to capitalist europe or USA, good housing (again same as USA middle class), fresh and plentiful variety of food, and so on.
So what Marxist countries have that without capitalism?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo still no answer as to a successful Marxist state? And you now seem to be talking about a welfare state rather than Marxism.
And by successful, I already said, one where the goals you states were achieved and the people were content and not living in poverty or oppression. So, where people have a good standard of living (say equivalent to Middle Class USA or Europeans) universal health care, education equivalent to capitalist europe or USA, good housing (again same as USA middle class), fresh and plentiful variety of food, and so on.
So what Marxist countries have that without capitalism?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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