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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Then why don't you tell us CP. You said that BLM was Marxist and that it supports things that blacks in general don't support. All I'm asking is what those things that you say "blacks in general don't support," CP?
    Dear Jim,
    You are contributing nothing of value to this thread.
    This is my VERY POLITE request for you to tone it down, or leave.
    Thank you EVER so much.
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    So, another thing I learned from my "boss" at the faith-based mission was --- when I said the BLM movement had hijacked the "black lives matter" sentiment - he very sternly corrected me, and said - NO, they didn't HIJACK it, it was Marxist right from the start.

    His point was that, from the very beginning, it was a bunch of MARXISTS who discovered that, if they could "wrap themselves in black skin", nobody would have the courage to denounce them, and they could implement their agenda, which includes all of the things from their website.
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    In a meeting this afternoon with my "boss", and his boss, and my police captain friend, the issue was addressed whereby it was only the black clergy who had several meetings with the various law enforcement agencies.
    No white or non-black clergy invited.

    It was explained to me that it was limited to black clergy, because only black clergy could understand the "black experience" with regards to interaction with police.
    He (my "boss") made a lot of sense, gave some excellent recent examples (some of which I was aware) and said that was only the initial phase of "talking it out".

    He explained that he intended to widen the scope, and bring in ALL the interested clergy, but the black clergy wanted to be heard.
    It was a very cordial meeting, and I explained that the Sheriff and Chief both seemed to express concerns that this seemed to be more of a "what are YOU going to do......" than "how we can manage this problem.

    He (my "boss") conceded that, yeah, he can understand that the Chief and Sheriff (and their command staff) would perceive it as confrontational, and would do better at framing it as a "WE" instead of "us" and "them".

    I'm getting the distinct impression that there's wider support than I had imagined for BLM to be NOT welcome by the black community.

    The video of my "boss" on YouTube (did I mention that here?) with what LOOKED like a Black Lives Matter t-shirt was discussed, and he gave me permission to share that video with interested parties.

    I think things are really settling down in our area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    Point of information "she" did not "criticize" any comments. She initially wrote that “Many ideals contained within Marxist thinking would chime quite well with the compassionate aspects that are to be found within Christianity..

    You replied with “ Please list the Marxist countries that have lived up to the ideals you claim they espouse,!

    Given that I had not mentioned any specific Marxist regime that was purely an assumption on your part concerning my reply.

    For impoverished societies where the majority of the population has been dominated by any, or all, of the following: rapacious landowners, autocracies, corrupt legislatures and judiciaries that worked for the benefit of the wealthy/aristocracy/landowners, and against the interests of the rest of the populace, or the undue influence of foreign business, as well as the denial of basic rights. Being provided with universal healthcare, education, a degree of involvement in politics, jobs and a modest standard of living might be considered by those experiencing that change, a degree of success.

    As I previously noted “success” depends on how one interprets that term.
    So still no answer as to a successful Marxist state? And you now seem to be talking about a welfare state rather than Marxism.

    And by successful, I already said, one where the goals you states were achieved and the people were content and not living in poverty or oppression. So, where people have a good standard of living (say equivalent to Middle Class USA or Europeans) universal health care, education equivalent to capitalist europe or USA, good housing (again same as USA middle class), fresh and plentiful variety of food, and so on.

    So what Marxist countries have that without capitalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    So still no answer as to a successful Marxist state? And you now seem to be talking about a welfare state rather than Marxism.

    And by successful, I already said, one where the goals you states were achieved and the people were content and not living in poverty or oppression. So, where people have a good standard of living (say equivalent to Middle Class USA or Europeans) universal health care, education equivalent to capitalist europe or USA, good housing (again same as USA middle class), fresh and plentiful variety of food, and so on.

    So what Marxist countries have that without capitalism?
    She has been banned from the thread, so....
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    BLM foot soldiers...

    Leftists go berserk at protest, surround and smash up car — and it turns out driver has cerebral palsy

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/leftis...cerebral-palsy
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    BLM foot soldiers...

    Leftists go berserk at protest, surround and smash up car — and it turns out driver has cerebral palsy

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/leftis...cerebral-palsy
    Obviously, these were very peaceful protestors who mistook the man's facial expression as "sneering", so they just wanted him to know that wasn't nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Obviously, these were very peaceful protestors who mistook the man's facial expression as "sneering", so they just wanted him to know that wasn't nice.
    Young Indianapolis mother killed after reportedly saying 'all lives matter' to BLM supporters

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/indian...l-lives-matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    She has been banned from the thread, so....
    durn. OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    It took a few centuries before full-scale violence ensued but incidents of anti-Judaic violence and violence against other non-Christians are cited from the late second century. Once Christianity achieved temporal power its aggression expanded. One only has to look at the destruction of ancient non-Christian sites and places of worship and the attacks on "paganism" that were instigated to recognise that.
    Sooo no genocidal purges which seem to be an earmark of Marxist regimes right after they gain power.

    Most more recent revolutions, including your own, have been a direct reaction against the extant ruling power/authorities. However, Christianity utilised Imperial power in order to pursue, and achieve, its goals.[/QUOTE]
    So you now admit that it took close to two centuries before Christians started behaving that way and yet with Marxists they start from the get go.


    It took the space of several lifetimes for early Christians to finally become corrupted and still not to near the degree that Marxists start out as.

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