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  • Is Black Lives Matter Marxist? No and Yes.

    Is Black Lives Matter Marxist? No and Yes.



    Civil discussion only - no OrangeManBad or OrangeManGood.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Civil discussion only - no OrangeManBad or OrangeManGood.
    When they first popped up a few years back they were backing the wrong horses, like that Michael Brown thug in Ferguson Missouri. So they didn't evoke much sympathy from me.

    Now they're making a huge splash over a local event and trying to skew statistics in their favor. It's all about optics, and now they have the Floyd optics to run on.

    I'm just exhausted hearing about them. The media, Hollywood, corporations are all jumping on their bandwagon as some sort of thoughtless, impulsively trendy "me too" reaction to the Floyd video.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ronson View Post
      When they first popped up a few years back they were backing the wrong horses, like that Michael Brown thug in Ferguson Missouri. So they didn't evoke much sympathy from me.

      Now they're making a huge splash over a local event and trying to skew statistics in their favor. It's all about optics, and now they have the Floyd optics to run on.

      I'm just exhausted hearing about them. The media, Hollywood, corporations are all jumping on their bandwagon as some sort of thoughtless, impulsively trendy "me too" reaction to the Floyd video.
      I've been researching this a lot lately, because my black "boss" at our faith-based mission has been talking a lot lately about BLM in a rather favorable way.

      We had JUST had a meeting of the PD, Sheriff's Department, local clergy, etc, talking about making sure our community stays united.

      I know the Police Chief's view on BLM, and I'm pretty sure I know the Sheriff's view on BLM - I'll talk to him later this evening (he's my next door neighbor).

      We (the whole group at this meeting) had agreed to be more careful about words and phrases that can be seen as antagonistic.

      My "boss" is a GREAT guy, a really strong Christian, but I don't think he has a clue how offensive 'pushing BLM' is to the police. It has to be a two-way street.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I've been researching this a lot lately, because my black "boss" at our faith-based mission has been talking a lot lately about BLM in a rather favorable way.

        We had JUST had a meeting of the PD, Sheriff's Department, local clergy, etc, talking about making sure our community stays united.

        I know the Police Chief's view on BLM, and I'm pretty sure I know the Sheriff's view on BLM - I'll talk to him later this evening (he's my next door neighbor).

        We (the whole group at this meeting) had agreed to be more careful about words and phrases that can be seen as antagonistic.

        My "boss" is a GREAT guy, a really strong Christian, but I don't think he has a clue how offensive 'pushing BLM' is to the police. It has to be a two-way street.
        I hadn't thought about the community aspect to it.

        When I see corporations trumpeting their support, raising BLM flags and such, I feel nauseated. Honestly, two things strike me:
        1) They feel sympathy because the Floyd video was painful. No one should go through that, and BLM insists it is happening all the time everywhere, and they are buying into that lie.
        2) They are being frightened weasels (like my CEO) who doesn't want to be singled out by BLM as a non-supporter, and possibly called a racist company, and maybe even suffering a boycott.

        This reminds me of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition. They were constantly accused of extortion. If a company was approached for funds and didn't contribute, they were attacked and labelled as "racist" by the group - at least until Jackson got his cash. I will not be surprised to see the same thing evolve here.

        ETA: https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...ng-down-toyota
        Last edited by Ronson; 07-07-2020, 06:18 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ronson View Post
          I hadn't thought about the community aspect to it.

          When I see corporations trumpeting their support, raising BLM flags and such, I feel nauseated. Honestly, two things strike me:
          1) They feel sympathy because the Floyd video was painful. No one should go through that, and BLM insists it is happening all the time everywhere, and they are buying into that lie.
          2) They are being frightened weasels (like my CEO) who doesn't want to be singled out by BLM as a non-supporter, and possibly called a racist company, and maybe even suffering a boycott.

          This reminds me of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition. They were constantly accused of extortion. If a company was approached for funds and didn't contribute, they were attacked and labelled as "racist" by the group - at least until Jackson got his cash. I will not be surprised to see the same thing evolve here.
          Yes, so the corporations, in this case, seem to be getting duped into supporting the BLM RADICAL JACKALS, thinking they're supporting the "black lives matter" narrative.

          It's like the Ali thing all over --- BLM has HIJACKED the social agenda of MLK.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            We need another slogan here. Something like the Promote Black Freedom or Pro Black Movement. (This should be three syllables long so that it can operate well as a slogan.) So we can say we are concerned for their lives but do not want them and all of us to be subjected to government slavery.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
              We need another slogan here. Something like the Promote Black Freedom or Pro Black Movement. (This should be three syllables long so that it can operate well as a slogan.) So we can say we are concerned for their lives but do not want them and all of us to be subjected to government slavery.
              I know people who are repulsed by the BLM official website's "platform" which is absolutely Marxist.

              They - the BLM people - have figured out that if they can cloak themselves in the black lives matter mantra, no cowardly white dude would ever challenge them, because all they have to do is cry RACIST!!!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                The church has no business getting involved with BLM.

                They are, as the article says, out to destroy the nuclear family, they are also pro-LGBTQWXYZ, and pro-abortion.

                Pastors should be telling their congregations to stay away from the movement.


                Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                  The church has no business getting involved with BLM.

                  They are, as the article says, out to destroy the nuclear family, they are also pro-LGBTQWXYZ, and pro-abortion.

                  Pastors should be telling their congregations to stay away from the movement.
                  But, therein lies the rub... I'm thinking that MOST people are totally ignorant of what BLM actually "preaches". And, yes, they need to be condemned outright as anti-American / anti-God.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    It seems a bit confusing because there are multi layers of the "movement," and multi layers of lies and deception.

                    BLM started off as a movement against black injustice by police (which itself is based on a lie because it completely ignores statistics about black crime, and even falsified a lot of the police encounters of black men that drove the movement -- to my knowledge, the killing of Floyd is really the only black man that most everyone agrees without dispute was an unjust killing, but even in that incident, whether racism was the sole reason of the killing is in dispute).

                    Then it seems another false movement has overlapped it and maybe even hijacked it. This is led primarily by white liberals and is based on the creepy and pervasive intersectionality ideology, and this is the part that seems to be pushing the marxist angle. Though there are a lot of members of the first false movement going along with the second false movement (perhaps because they see success in numbers), there are many of the first false movement decrying the fact that the second has been hijacked by the first for their own political ends.
                    Last edited by seanD; 07-07-2020, 07:06 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post
                      It seems a bit confusing because there are multi layers of the "movement," and multi layers of lies and deception.

                      BLM started off as a movement against black injustice by police (which itself is based on a lie because it completely ignores statistics about black crime, and even falsified a lot of the police encounters of black men that drove the movement -- to my knowledge, the killing of Floyd is really the only black man that most everyone agrees without dispute was an unjust killing, but even in that incident, whether racism was the sole reason of the killing is in dispute).

                      Then it seems another false movement has overlapped it and maybe even hijacked it. This is led primarily by white liberals and is based on the creepy and pervasive intersectionality ideology, and this is the part that seems to be pushing the marxist angle. Though there are a lot of members of the first false movement going along with the second false movement (perhaps because they see success in numbers), there are many of the first false movement decrying the fact that the second has hijacked the first for their own political ends.
                      And there are courageous black leaders standing up and refuting the whole thing as anti-BLACK, because it attacks the nuclear family, etc...
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        But, therein lies the rub... I'm thinking that MOST people are totally ignorant of what BLM actually "preaches". And, yes, they need to be condemned outright as anti-American / anti-God.
                        Those of us in the know should lovingly and emphatically show them the evidence of what BLM believes, and point out how anti-God it is.


                        Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          Those of us in the know should lovingly and emphatically show them the evidence of what BLM believes, and point out how anti-God it is.
                          That's why I'm meeting with the Sheriff tonight, and the Police Chief in the morning, then talking to my "boss" tomorrow or the next day. The "BLM support" needs to stop, or our funding and my involvement will stop.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            I knew you would be on top of it, my brother.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                              The church has no business getting involved with BLM.

                              They are, as the article says, out to destroy the nuclear family, they are also pro-LGBTQWXYZ, and pro-abortion.

                              Pastors should be telling their congregations to stay away from the movement.
                              I agree. Pastors should be feeding the sheep with what Christ said about this world and its politics.

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