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  • Can't Mandate Masks

    The federal government nor the state governments can mandate the wearing of masks. There is no safety benefit to either wearer or other people unless you are actually sick and coughing or sneezing. (However, this theory may have been debunked too by tests done -- where people with flu were breathing into healthy people and various other efforts to spread a virus. But I'm not sure of all the details on what was tested.) Anyhow, former Judge Andrew Policano pointed out that states don't have a right to do this, except on state property. (State property does not really include public right of ways -- these are open to conventional means of travel.) The basic aspect where the state can get involved is if you have already harmed someone without recompense to them for that harm. The state can intervene to stop you from continuing in such harm to others.
    Policano did say the state could quarantine people who are sick with a communicable disease, but the state could not legally make people wear masks.

    We should not wear masks due to the scare factor caused upon people by the idea that we all are sick. Also, the unnecessary (and improper) use of masks can decrease oxygenation of our blood and increase carbon dioxide levels.

    Our sheriff has, at least initially, refused to enforce the guideline to wear masks.
    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020...g-enforcement/




    Worse yet,all the states and even other countries are requiring face masks as the coronavirus season is coming to an end. This is like mandating umbrellas just when the dry summer winds are occurring.
    Last edited by mikewhitney; 07-08-2020, 01:08 AM.

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    Morons like you have been killing people.
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    • #3
      The fact is, your chances of catching the China flu through casual public interaction is negligible at the very worst, and the way the overwhelming majority of the public is using masks isn't doing them a bit of good anyway.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        The federal government nor the state governments cannot mandate the wearing of masks.
        They can, and they have. There are no lawsuits pending for supposed violations these governments have made.

        You're wrong.

        Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
        There is no safety benefit to either wearer or other people unless you are actually sick and coughing or sneezing.
        And since people frequently don't know when they're infected, masks are one of the most effective ways to limit the spread of the virus.

        You're wrong again.

        I stopped read here, sorry.
        Last edited by Whateverman; 07-08-2020, 07:02 AM. Reason: red text added to quote, to correct the typo

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          The fact is, your chances of catching the China flu through casual public interaction is negligible at the very worst, and the way the overwhelming majority of the public is using masks isn't doing them a bit of good anyway.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
            The federal government nor the state governments can mandate the wearing of masks. There is no safety benefit to either wearer or other people unless you are actually sick and coughing or sneezing. (However, this theory may have been debunked too by tests done -- where people with flu were breathing into healthy people and various other efforts to spread a virus. But I'm not sure of all the details on what was tested.) Anyhow, former Judge Andrew Policano pointed out that states don't have a right to do this, except on state property. (State property does not really include public right of ways -- these are open to conventional means of travel.) The basic aspect where the state can get involved is if you have already harmed someone without recompense to them for that harm. The state can intervene to stop you from continuing in such harm to others.
            Policano did say the state could quarantine people who are sick with a communicable disease, but the state could not legally make people wear masks.

            We should not wear masks due to the scare factor caused upon people by the idea that we all are sick. Also, the unnecessary (and improper) use of masks can decrease oxygenation of our blood and increase carbon dioxide levels.

            Our sheriff has, at least initially, refused to enforce the guideline to wear masks.
            https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020...g-enforcement/




            Worse yet,all the states and even other countries are requiring face masks as the coronavirus season is coming to an end. This is like mandating umbrellas just when the dry summer winds are occurring.
            https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ing-face-masks

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
              They can, and they have. There are no lawsuits pending for supposed violations these governments have made.

              You're wrong.


              And since people frequently don't know when they're infected, masks are one of the most effective ways to limit the spread of the virus.

              You're wrong again.

              I stopped read here, sorry.

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              • #8
                I really don't actually know what's causing the change; I doubt it has anything to do with a reassessment of their vanity.

                I suspect it's the fact that the problem is so big, they're forced to admit it exists. Given a better control of the media, they'd probably continue doing what they've been doing for the last 4-5 years...

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                • #9
                  I'm sorry. I guess you folks know more about the law than Judge Policano.

                  Everything I have seen about the masks shows them as useless ... or rather as harmful. So If you want to follow policitians instead of doctors and legal experts, have fun. Get sick. Look silly. Harm your kids. Stop children from going to school. Well, actually, the children might become smarter if they are taught at home instead.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                    I'm sorry. I guess you folks know more about the law than Judge Policano.

                    Everything I have seen about the masks shows them as useless ... or rather as harmful. So If you want to follow policitians instead of doctors and legal experts, have fun. Get sick. Look silly. Harm your kids. Stop children from going to school. Well, actually, the children might become smarter if they are taught at home instead.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Roy View Post
                      Morons like you have been killing people.
                      How am I a seen as a moron for telling you the truth? If I were super contagious with a disease and had evidence that wearing a mask would help other people, I could consider wearing one. Apart from this, it is silly to wear a mask -- but some people really should wear one anyhow, as a public service.

                      How are you convinced that wearing a mask is legal and helpful?

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                      • #12
                        Is that the extent of your legal and scientific evidence for this discussion?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                          Is that the extent of your legal and scientific evidence for this discussion?

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                          • #14
                            If you would like to provide any evidence of what you say, that would be helpful. I am saying the mask is silly because it helps no one and makes most people look silly. The silliness is more about the superstition behind wearing one in public. ) Some people may look better with a mask. If the barn needs painting, then paint it.

                            If you actually feel safer with a mask, then wear one. And just hang around people that wear them.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                              If you would like to provide any evidence of what you say, that would be helpful. I am saying the mask is silly because it helps no one and makes most people look silly. Some people may look better with a mask. If the barn needs painting, then paint it.

                              If you actually feel safer with a mask, then wear one. And just hang around people that wear them.

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