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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhy are liberals so obsessed with skin color and gender?
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostProbably because women and people of color wish to have representation in government other than white men many of whom seem to be misogynists and racists which explains why they have so little such representation in the republican party.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostI think it’s fair to point it out here. The legislative body should ideally represent the diversity of the population.
I can't see how either assumption is not disgustingly racist.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostIt probably has something to do with conservatives having a history of obsessively repressing people according to skin color and gender.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostIt probably has something to do with conservatives having a history of obsessively repressing people according to skin color and gender.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostIf I say that statistically whites are more violent than Asians or Native Americans is that racist? How so?
Originally posted by seer View PostIf you don't control for all past criminal history then the conclusions are flawed.
Originally posted by seer View PostOK, where is your study on black officers compared to white officers?
Originally posted by seer View PostAnd the sentencing conclusion is flawed UNTIL you control for ALL past criminal history which your link did not, no control for non-violent criminal history. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...cism-1479.html
Originally posted by seer View PostPhilly is pretty representative of large American cities.
Originally posted by seer View PostBut you won't even entertain an opposing view. You are closed minded Carp.
Originally posted by seer View PostYes now not only am I a racist, I'm deceptive. Nice to live in your own little bubble.
The closed mind is not on this side of the Internet connection, Seer. I think you need to look a tad closer to home.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIt's getting better, still a way to go though.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWell, yes, that's why I asked, because you mentioned deliberately exposing your kiddos to "black cultural heritage", so I was curious what exactly that looked like from your point of view.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostThe biggest scientific study I'm aware of found that the answer was both, but a lot more #1 than #2.
What the data say about police brutality and racial bias gives this graph, which is informative:
What that tells you is that for incidents in white neighborhoods (left side of the graph), black and white officers had a similar chance of deciding to use a gun during the incident. (i.e. black cops aren't racist toward whites and don't use guns on them any more than white cops do)
But in a black neighborhood, it's a whole other story. When a black officer was dispatched to deal with a situation, their chances of using a gun in an incident in a black neighborhood were ~50% higher than in a white neighborhood. That shouldn't be surprising, as it reflects more violent crimes occurring there.
But the statistic that really stands out (top right of the graph) is that white officers were ~800% more likely to use their gun in a black neighborhood than in a white one. The white officers, unlike the black officers, are really, really, trigger-happy in black areas.
That seems to be racism: The behavior of the white cops with regard to use of a gun is really really different to the black cops, and that behavioral difference just so happens to manifest in black neighborhoods. That behavior is how a racist person would act.
So with regard to your two explanations of police use of force in black neighborhoods of (1) racism, and (2) more crime, then, assuming we are talking about white officers, it appears from the data that it's about 75% due to apparent racism and 25% due to more serious crime in those areas.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWorth looking at the demographics of who the newly-elected members were in each party in hat 116th Congress. It tells a clear story as to which party represents a single race (and mostly a single sex) and which party represents in a balanced way the demographics of America:
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The Republicans appear to be the party of a single race and a single sex. Worth reflecting on the fact that the stats you cite are only reasonably close to that of the overall US population because there was a blue wave in 2018, so Dems were able to elect such a well-balanced field that reflected the wider US population.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seanD View PostIt's unquestionably nuanced. White cops are more cautious because they undoubtedly have more aggressive encounters with blacks than black cops do. Not just in how blacks view cops in general, but especially how they view whites in general. Blacks, particularly in the hood, are deeply racist against whites primarily because of democratic leaders (especially and particularly Nation of Islam leaders like Farrakhan) drumming into their heads that "whitey" is keeping them down and a major part of their struggles. Liberals love to deny the racist views on the part of blacks against whites, but this is a stone cold reality that no one living in the hood can deny. This also shows in the black on white violent crime data. I have no doubt this is a factor that affects the data SL referenced.
It simply boggles the imagination.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhy are liberals so obsessed with skin color and gender?
If blond people were being systematically oppressed or disadvantaged, we'd be talking about hair color.
When Jewish people are being systematically oppressed or disadvantaged, we talk about religion/nationality.
If short people were being systematically oppressed or disadvantaged, we'd be talking about height.
If hirsute people were being systematically oppressed or disadvantaged, we'd be talking about hair.
This is an extremely disingenuous question designed to reverse the narrative by calling those who are calling for justice "racist" because they have to refer to race to point out the injustice.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYes, it is, for reasons already enumerated. See my previous answers.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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