Conservative values/principles

[JimL]

It doe?

Jim, once again, there's FAR more evidence on this board that you support NAMBLA than that I support Trump.

Not even close, CP.

[Cow Poke]

Not even close, CP.

Jim, you really need to stop derailing threads like this, constantly repeating your little idiot rant accusing people of "support for a lawless treasonous president".

[JimL]

Jim, you really need to stop derailing threads like this, constantly repeating your little idiot rant accusing people of "support for a lawless treasonous president".

If you're going to falsely accuse liberals of supporting rioting, burning, toppling of statues etc. etc. then don't cry when you get accused of the evil we liberals see in conservative Trump supporters like yourself.

[Cow Poke]

If you're going to falsely accuse liberals of supporting rioting, burning, toppling of statues etc. etc. then don't cry when you get accused of the evil we liberals see in conservative Trump supporters like yourself.

I don't cry, JimmySue -- I rejoice when the evil ones attack.

[carpedm9587]

That argument's already been tried. (JimL thought it was brilliant) They didn't steal the tea, burn the ships, and haul the tea home. Not even close.

Actually - they DID steal the tea - and destroyed it (which is what burning does to property as well). I have no idea if some of them took a little tea home. It's certainly possible. And all I did was cite two examples (and I notice you ignored the statue toppling example). BTW, the vast majority of protesters also did not steal, burn, or riot. They protested peacefully - if angrily. And most of them explicitly decried the violence and encouraged the attendees to keep things peaceful. That was pretty widely reported, and I witnessed it at the gatherings I attended. Indeed, I was impressed with the number of people peacefully demonstrating and wearing masks and maintaining 6 feet of separation. Unfortunately, the emphasis went on the bad apples - it's a better story, and it aligns with what so many on the right want to believe is true.

I'll have to take your word for it - I wasn't there.

Most history books have been sanitized of the "dark side" of the revolution. The British are described as evil and looters, and the American soldiers the patriotic, valiant, fighters against oppression. Nothing is ever quite that black and white. There are several history books that do not have that sanitized relating.

Ya know, that sentiment sounds noble, but it amounts to pretty much tacit approval and dismissal.

No - it doesn't. Understanding how a thing came to be is not the same as approving of it. You should know better, CP.

BTW, I have the same feeling about the tea party. I understand what motivated them to take that action - but at the end of the day they took property that wasn't theirs and destroyed it. That is not an action I condone unless it is in defense of self or defense of others at imminent risk. I doubt the tea was going to attack anyone. Boycotting the tea would have been a more moral act.

My black friends, including my black "boss", is pretty hacked that BLM has clothed themselves in "black skin" to carry out their Marxist anarchy.

I work with the local chapter of BLM. While a small fraction of people have "acted out" inappropriately and used the BLM name in so doing, the movement itself largely disavows them and has nothing to do with those actions. You might want to visit their website and learn something about the organization itself, rather than the hype put forward by so many news outlets, especially those leaning to the right.

[seer]

I work with the local chapter of BLM. While a small fraction of people have "acted out" inappropriately and used the BLM name in so doing, the movement itself largely disavows them and has nothing to do with those actions. You might want to visit their website and learn something about the organization itself, rather than the hype put forward by so many news outlets, especially those leaning to the right.

Of course you do, so you agree with the Marxist beliefs of the founders of BLM comrade?

[Cow Poke]

I work with the local chapter of BLM.

Many times these "local chapters" are made up of well meaning people who have no idea what the agenda of BLM (the global organization) is.


While a small fraction of people have "acted out" inappropriately and used the BLM name in so doing, the movement itself largely disavows them and has nothing to do with those actions.[/quote]

What's your source for "the movement" disavowing the "acting out"?

You might want to visit their website and learn something about the organization itself,

Condescending attitude detected and dismissed.

rather than the hype put forward by so many news outlets, especially those leaning to the right.

Actually, the material I got WAS from their website, which has fairly recently been "sanitized of the dark side of the revolution".

[Cow Poke]

Of course you do, so you agree with the Marxist beliefs of the founders of BLM comrade?

Interesting question.
Not sure if he's aware of the Marxist roots, or if he's in agreement with them.

[JimL]

Of course you do, so you agree with the Marxist beliefs of the founders of BLM comrade?

Actually it's you Trumpsters who seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive of psychological impairment that are supporting an authoritarian style of governance, comrade. Trump is your Darth Sidious.

[Cow Poke]

Actually it's you Trumpsters who seem to be suffering from some sort of cognitive of psychological impairment that are supporting an authoritarian style of governance, comrade. Trump is your Darth Sidious.

You are so VERY precious.

[carpedm9587]

Of course you do, so you agree with the Marxist beliefs of the founders of BLM comrade?

I agree with the core principles espoused by the BLM movement, which are:

source

I'd be curious to know which of these values and beliefs you disagree with. Obviously you disagree with anything having to do with gay people. What else?

[Cow Poke]

I agree with the core principles espoused by the BLM movement, which are:

source

I'd be curious to know which of these values and beliefs you disagree with. Obviously you disagree with anything having to do with gay people. What else?

OK, first....
A) There is nothing there with which you disagree?
2) You are completely fine with Marxism?

[seer]

While a small fraction of people have "acted out" inappropriately and used the BLM name in so doing, the movement itself largely disavows them and has nothing to do with those actions.

What's your source for "the movement" disavowing the "acting out"?

As far as I know they have not disavowed the racist founder of BLM in Toronto...

White ppl are recessive genetic defects. this is factual black ppl simply through their dominant genes can literally wipe out the white race if we had the power tohttps://torontosun.com/2017/02/11/bl...8-decfe73d1e52

[seer]

I agree with the core principles espoused by the BLM movement, which are:

First their use of comrade is telling. But again Carp do you agree with the Marxism of the founders? Do you think they have changed their goals and embraced free markets?

And I certainly disagree with this: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.

[Cow Poke]

First their use of comrade is telling. But again Carp do you agree with the Marxism of the founders? Do you think they have changed their goals and embraced free markets?

I've been dealing with this quite a bit here - http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...ist-No-and-Yes - working with actual black leaders, not people who "play black people on TV".

And I certainly disagree with this: We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.

It would not surprise me if Carpe agreed with that one - or, at least, did not disagree --- which is why I asked what I did.

But, we shall see.