Conservative values/principles

[Whateverman]

What are they?

It's a simple question, open to everyone. Looking for real answers/opinions.

[Cow Poke]

Conservative fiscally? Conservative politically? Conservative socially?

What is it you're looking for, other than to "GOTCHA" when you nail Trump for not being "that"?

[KingsGambit]

Conservative fiscally? Conservative politically? Conservative socially?

What is it you're looking for, other than to "GOTCHA" when you nail Trump for not being "that"?

I think it's a fair question

[Cow Poke]

I think it's a fair question

Got suggestions?

[Cow Poke]

In trying to define what somebody is - like "conservative" - we can get so granular that we can't agree on a specific point.

So, let's give this a start, and see if other conservatives agree with these points.

1. Transcendent Order
2. Social Continuity3. Prescription
4. Prudence

Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence. Burke agrees with Plato that in the statesman, prudence is chief among virtues. Any public measure ought to be judged by its probable long-run consequences, not merely by temporary advantage or popularity. Liberals and radicals, the conservative holds, are imprudent: for they dash at their objectives without giving much heed to the risk of new abuses worse than the evils they hope to sweep away. Human society being complex, remedies cannot be simple if they are to be effective. The conservative declares that he acts only after sufficient reflection, having weighed the consequences. Sudden and slashing reforms are perilous as sudden and slashing surgery. The march of providence is slow; it is the devil who always hurries.

5. Variety

Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety. They feel affection for the proliferating intricacy of long-established social institutions and modes of life, as distinguished from the narrowing uniformity and deadening egalitarianism of radical systems. For the preservation of a healthy diversity in any civilization, there must survive orders and classes, differences in material condition, and many sorts of inequality. The only true forms of equality are equality in the Last Judgment and equality before a just court of law; all other attempts at leveling lead, at best, to social stagnation. Society longs for honest and able leadership; and if natural and institutional differences among people are destroyed, presently some tyrant or host of squalid oligarchs will create new forms of inequality. Similarly, conservatives uphold the institution of private property as productive of human variety: without private property, liberty is reduced and culture is impoverished.

6. Imperfection

[Whateverman]

I think it's a fair question

Thank you.

[Cow Poke]

Thank you.

He's always a well-balanced solid good guy.

[seer]

What are they?

It's a simple question, open to everyone. Looking for real answers/opinions.

That the principles found in the Declaration concerning human rights and the protection of those rights as found in the Constitution is the best possible way to organize a society and government. That is a start.

[Whateverman]

That the principles found in the Declaration concerning human rights and the protection of those rights as found in the Constitution is the best possible way to organize a society and government. That is a start.

Liberals would say the same thing, though.

I'm not saying you're wrong, per se. It's just that those values/principles aren't specifically conservative; they're American. I'm looking for conservative values/principles; things which identify a person as a conservative.

[seer]

Liberals would say the same thing, though.

I'm not saying you're wrong, per se. It's just that those values/principles aren't specifically conservative; they're American. I'm looking for conservative values/principles; things which identify a person as a conservative.

Actually I don't think today's liberal do. They don't believe in free speech, the second amendment with socialism increasingly undermining property rights. Or generally believe that rights are God given. Conservatives have a reverence for the Founders that you don't find on the left, and a higher regard for law and order. And of course we are largely pro life...

[Whateverman]

Actually I don't think today's liberal do.

They do. All Americans do.

[Cow Poke]

They do. All Americans do.

Ya know, that's one of them thar things where we only have to find ONE American as the exception.

[seer]

They do. All Americans do.

Then you are wrong. Cancel culture, campus speech codes, microaggressions, gender neutral language, hate speech for instance all are aimed at undermining speech, and it is the left that is driving those.

[Whateverman]

Then you are wrong.

no, you are.

Try sticking to the topic of the thread without insulting people. Or is that too much to ask?

[seanD]

no, you are.

Try sticking to the topic of the thread without insulting people. Or is that too much to ask?

Seer never insulted you once. He just showed you specifically where you're wrong. The left hates free speech when they disagree with it and this has been abundantly demonstrated. But instead of a factual rebuttal, you omit that part of his post (like the slimy dishonest way you always do), hand wave what he said and just pull OP rank over him.