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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You should apply for a job as a reporter for Pravda!
2018 - Charlottesville car attack (1 dead, 28 injured - alt right terrorist drove a car into a crowd of protesters) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlo...lle_car_attack
2018 - Pittsburgh synagogue shooting (11 dead, 6 injured - alt right terrorist argued jews was part of a "white genocide" conspiracy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsb...gogue_shooting
2019 - Poway synagogue shooting (1 dead, 3 injured - alt right terorrist with a manifesto against "white genocide" posted on 8chan) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poway_synagogue_shooting
2019 - El Paso Shooting (23 dead, 23 injured - alt right terrorist with a manifesto against immigration posted on 8chan) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
That's not nothing. I remember with the Christchurch shooting people the discussion was almost exclusively focused on gun control issues, not what sort of weirdo influences radicalized these people.Last edited by Leonhard; 07-17-2020, 06:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI know there's some friction going on between the two of you and JimL is mostly trolling. However the notion that Right-Wing terrorism is a lot more deadly, and that conservatives here haven't exactly interacted with it, seems fair.
2018 - Charlottesville car attack (1 dead, 28 injured - alt right terrorist drove a car into a crowd of protesters) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlo...lle_car_attack
2018 - Pittsburgh synagogue shooting (11 dead, 6 injured - alt right terrorist argued jews was part of a "white genocide" conspiracy) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsb...gogue_shooting
2019 - Poway synagogue shooting (1 dead, 3 injured - alt right terorrist with a manifesto against "white genocide" posted on 8chan) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poway_synagogue_shooting
2019 - El Paso Shooting (23 dead, 23 injured - alt right terrorist with a manifesto against immigration posted on 8chan) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_Paso_shooting
That's not nothing. I remember with the Christchurch shooting people the discussion was almost exclusively focused on gun control issues, not what sort of weirdo influences radicalized these people.
When things like that happen, and it's "the left", they tend to excuse, justify, "understand".... you'll be hard pressed to find a leftist loudly and proudly condemning them.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen things like that happen, and it's "right wing", I loudly and proudly condemn them.
When things like that happen, and it's "the left", they tend to excuse, justify, "understand".... you'll be hard pressed to find a leftist loudly and proudly condemning them.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostGood on you. So you agree
with the FBI that right wing terrorism is the majority of the terrorism problem in the US?
Exactly what violence are you speaking of that you've yet to hear a leftists condemn?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen things like that happen, and it's "right wing", I loudly and proudly condemn them.
When things like that happen, and it's "the left", they tend to excuse, justify, "understand".... you'll be hard pressed to find a leftist loudly and proudly condemning them.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostWho brought up the gun control talk in those threads? Was it CP or someone else?
Really, just curious.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostSomeone else, my post wasn't meant to be an inquisition. Just pointing out that there's been a lot of right-wing violence, and its kinda brushed off very quickly.
Thanks.
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I didn't read your links til late last night, Leon, and I soundly condemn each one of those situations. And I offer NO rationalization of justification for their actions. Is there something else you'd like me to say?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostSomeone else, my post wasn't meant to be an inquisition. Just pointing out that there's been a lot of right-wing violence, and its kinda brushed off very quickly.
Look at JimL --- he squirms around truing to blame it on the alt-right with his "how do you KNOW those are....." and trying to liken the "statue topplers" to the American Revolution. Look how fiercely denies that "Defund the Police" means "defund the police", even when we provide quotes from those who are pushing it that say that's EXACTLY what it means.
Looting and burning buildings, blocking traffic and beating up innocent people, taking over city blocks and turning them into lawless regions --- those are absolutely unacceptable. But the liberals here can't denounce that. I do.
I clearly denounce civil violence like that from wherever it comes.
JimL cannot.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostThis thread and other recent threads here on tweb have seriously made me question why I spend time here.
You have done a very important thing in reminding me that Tweb liberals do NOT represent liberalism in general - I get that.
Most of the people I deal with in real life (outside my church) are liberals, and they are nothing at all like the extreme leftist goom-and-doomers here, nor do they attempt to defend the "defund police" crap or make excuses for the looting and rioting we see being done by the left.
I think you get frustrated because I (and others) stand up to the extremist loony leftist nutters (being somewhat facetious) who, as you say, do NOT represent real life liberals in general.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI didn't read your links til late last night, Leon, and I soundly condemn each one of those situations. And I offer NO rationalization of justification for their actions. Is there something else you'd like me to say?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLeon, I don't dwell on those situations because there is absolutely no justification for them. They're not so much "brushed off" as they are soundly denounced. That's something you won't get the liberals here to do here -- just outright soundly denounce the violence.
Look at JimL --- he squirms around truing to blame it on the alt-right with his "how do you KNOW those are....." and trying to liken the "statue topplers" to the American Revolution. Look how fiercely denies that "Defund the Police" means "defund the police", even when we provide quotes from those who are pushing it that say that's EXACTLY what it means.
Looting and burning buildings, blocking traffic and beating up innocent people, taking over city blocks and turning them into lawless regions --- those are absolutely unacceptable. But the liberals here can't denounce that. I do.
I clearly denounce civil violence like that from wherever it comes.
JimL cannot.
I've condemned almost all of those acts, and while I have mixed feelings about CHAZ I've expressed that it probably was a very bad idea.Last edited by Leonhard; 07-18-2020, 03:52 PM.
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