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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    The error in question apparently being that they were not reporting negative results.

    Is that correct?
    Not completely sure, although it appears to be the case. I'm still looking into this but find information scarce since most of the MSM is making a concerted effort to ignore this.


    As an aside, the CDC director has said some very interesting things about the cause of the spike of Chicom coronavirus in states like Florida and it has nothing to do with re-opening too soon and other reasons that the MSM blame. Again, details are scarce since the MSM is determinedly ignoring his remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    One hospital. In a state nearly three times larger than the entire U.K.
    I've no reason to think that hospital is exceptional. Misleading comparisons don't help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    Not completely sure, although it appears to be the case. I'm still looking into this but find information scarce since most of the MSM is making a concerted effort to ignore this.
    Probably because it's not much of a story. Unless some-one wants to pretend that the negative results being under-reported somehow implies that the positive results are being over-reported. But that would be a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    I've no reason to think that hospital is exceptional. Misleading comparisons don't help.
    A sample of 1 out of (FWICT) 407 is an abysmally small sampling and drawing conclusions from it appear to be a recipe for disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOb View Post
    https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...s-coronavirus/


    Many Texas hospitals are no longer accepting transfer patients in order to maintain space for a surge that’s expected to come. In some parts of the state, it’s already here.

    A coronavirus patient in Anahuac was flown by helicopter to a hospital in El Campo — 120 miles away — because closer facilities could not take him.

    Ambulances are waiting up to 10 hours to deliver patients to packed Hidalgo County emergency rooms.

    And short-staffed hospitals in Midland and Odessa have had to turn away ailing COVID-19 patients from rural West Texas facilities that can’t offer the care they need.

    As the tally of coronavirus infections climbs higher each day, Texas hospitals are taking extraordinary steps to make space for a surge of patients. Some facilities in South Texas say they are dangerously close to filling up, while hospitals elsewhere are taking precautionary measures to keep their numbers manageable.

    Doctors warn of shortages of an antiviral drug that shows promise for treating COVID-19 patients. And epidemiologists say the state’s hospitals may be in for a longer, harder ride than places like New York, where hospitals were stretched to capacity in the spring and some parked refrigerated trailers outside to store bodies of people who died from COVID-19.

    “It used to [be that] if one hospital got kind of overwhelmed … you would start transferring out ICU patients to other facilities that had ICU beds available,” said Dr. Robert Hancock, president of the Texas College of Emergency Physicians. “And there really is none of that now, because everybody’s in the same boat and they’re struggling to get their own patients admitted.”


    We even have *named* sources!

    And remember, today's ICU beds are occupied those who were infected 4-6 weeks ago. Hold on to your butts.
    Maybe they shouldn't have been rioting in the streets and standing shoulder to shoulder at the world's biggest funeral. Oh wait, you can't catch the virus by demonstrating racism. I forgot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    A sample of 1 out of (FWICT) 407 is an abysmally small sampling and drawing conclusions from it appear to be a recipe for disaster.
    I won't do that then. Unfortunately, 1 sample is all I've seen.

    Edited to add: Having thought about it, I suspect the number of ICU beds cited by CP (~1300) may be for the entire state, or some area of the state,, not just one hospital. Unfortunately I can't find it now.

    Calling CP?
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    Never mind - I've just found the Texas Medical centre website. Their data on ICU bed usage is collated from multiple hospitals, and currently shows 51% of existing ICU beds and 8% of planned expansion of ICU capacity occupied by COVID patients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    IIRC only 15% of ICU beds in Texas are occupied by those suffering from the Chicom coronavirus. Most of the rest are filled with folks with cancer or circulatory (primarily heart) issues who were either forced to delay treatment or who elected to postpone due to fear of contracting it.
    It's really weird - I'm a hospital chaplain, and get updates from rural hospitals, mainly, but also have connections to Harris county hospital chaplains. They're scratching their heads at where these 'statistics' come from, because they're actually walking the halls and looking into rooms, and not seeing it.

    The FACT is that hospitals get federal funding for COVID related cases, so the assumption is that maybe there are cases that are reported as "covid" if there's even the slightest possible link to Covid.

    I was in our own local hospital Wednesday morning, and it looked totally "business as usual". One of our members was in a neighboring "big city" hospital for a TIA, and she reports the same thing.
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    Plus, I just took my wife to MD Anderson on Tuesday for her cancer screening, and knew ahead of time that I wouldn't be allowed in, so I was prepared to go on a gas grill shopping excursion.

    When we pulled up to the 'patient dropoff' area, a hospital staffer asked me if I was going to wait for her, and suggested there was FREE PARKING in the basement.
    Anybody who knows anything at all about parking in the medical district in Houston knows that parking is usually a MINIMUM of $15 for up to 8 hours, IF you can find a parking spot.

    They usually operate a very busy valet service for off-site parking, but valet was also closed. EMPTY.

    My wife was supposed to be "all day" with an appointment in the morning, tests and screenings, then another appointment at 1 PM.
    She was done in less than an hour with EVERYTHING, and told me it was "like a ghost town in there".

    The parking garage was nearly empty.

    I know this is only anecdotal, but when you see these screaming "HOSPITALS IN HOUSTON ARE OVERFLOWING" headlines, then drive around the hospital district --- it's like, say WHAT?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    I won't do that then. Unfortunately, 1 sample is all I've seen.

    Edited to add: Having thought about it, I suspect the number of ICU beds cited by CP (~1300) may be for the entire state, or some area of the state,, not just one hospital. Unfortunately I can't find it now.

    Calling CP?
    Hey, Roy.

    It's just weird.

    One more "anecdotal". My daughter is a Hospice Nurse, fully qualified for COVID care, and her team frequently gets updates from Houston Hospitals asking for nurses who can work shifts.
    The pay for those is EASILY $150-300 per shift CASH MONEY, and has been an excellent "second job" when my daughter wants to pay off school debt put some money aside for vacation or whatever.

    Lately (the last 4 or 5 weeks) there have been ZERO such "extra shift" opportunities available.

    If there's this YUGE shortage of hospital staff...
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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