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Texas hospitals are running out of drugs, beds, ventilators and even staff
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"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostThanks for pointing that out.
Abracadabra has asked to me stop posting, however.
I suppose that will cause some of you to find it a bit more likely that Abracadabra is a deity.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Texas amy pass NEw York and California.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostTexas amy pass NEw York and California.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhat the article does not reveal is that this is yet another "little Mexico" along the border, controlled by the drug cartel. It is a transshipment point for drugs, and controlled by the cartel. VERY sad news, but not at all representative of the other 253 counties in Texas.
Changing the subject and 'passing the buck' does not help your case. Actually the origin of the COVID 19 pandemic in Mexico and the Latin Americans in Texas is most likely the good old USA. The virus does not know boundaries.
The hospitals all accross the South, and West are facing similar problems.Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-25-2020, 07:27 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostI'm not sure why you consider that curious. It's pretty widely known, at least among atheists.
Consider the following four types:
1) A theist who wants to convince others there is a God.
2) An atheist who wants to convince others there aren't any gods.
3) A theist who doesn't try to convince others there is a God.
4) An atheist who doesn't try to convince others there aren't any gods.
The first two types have a burden of proof. The other two types don't. (I happen to be type 4, and the theists I get along with best are type 3.)
You can have confidence in your worldview without feeling a pressing need to change other people's worldviews to match yours.
Or another way to say it is 4 becomes 2 when he must open his mouth.
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Originally posted by Maranatha View PostThat is not a distinction of beliefs, just a distinction of practices.
Or another way to say it is 4 becomes 2 when he must open his mouth.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostChanging the subject and 'passing the buck' does not help your case.
And what "passing the buck" is there?
Actually the origin of the COVID 19 pandemic in Mexico and the Latin Americans in Texas is most likely the good old USA. The virus does not know boundaries.
The hospitals all accross the South, and West are facing similar problems.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostSo? If someone is content to let others believe what they want, he has no burden of proof, regardless of what he himself believes.
Actually, 4 can open his mouth as much as he wants, even to voice his opinion that there are no gods, but he only become 2 when he expects others to agree with him that there are no gods.
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Originally posted by Maranatha View PostSo now you are saying the atheist has no burden, unless he has a secret desire for others to believe him. It is getting more strange, this burden of proof thingy.
If someone says, "I don't believe there is a God," then he does not have a burden of proof.
If instead he says, "You are wrong to believe there is a God," then he does have a burden of proof.
There is a gray area, of course. If someone says, "It's clear there is no God," then he may mean "It's clear to me" or he may mean "It should be clear to you." You'll have to figure it out from context, or ask him what he means.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostI said nothing about it being a secret.
If someone says, "I don't believe there is a God," then he does not have a burden of proof.
If instead he says, "You are wrong to believe there is a God," then he does have a burden of proof.
There is a gray area, of course. If someone says, "It's clear there is no God," then he may mean "It's clear to me" or he may mean "It should be clear to you." You'll have to figure it out from context, or ask him what he means.
I don't believe this silliness when it comes to discovering a man's Creator. The burden of proof rests upon every man. I am not burdened by you, you are not burdened by me. You are burdened to find the answer for yourself.
The more interesting thing is does tweb have an atheist here that fits your personal definition?
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Originally posted by Maranatha View PostI don't need to ask, it is readily apparent already by reading someone's words. Whether they themselves have come to grips what they say is a different matter.
I don't believe this silliness when it comes to discovering a man's Creator. The burden of proof rests upon every man. I am not burdened by you, you are not burdened by me. You are burdened to find the answer for yourself.
The more interesting thing is does tweb have an atheist here that fits your personal definition?
I will occasionally get involved in a discussion about the existence of God, but only to the extent of pointing out bad arguments. And if someone uses something about God as a premise in some argument, I will point out that the premise carries no weight with me.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostShuny, it's not "changing the subject" to add background to THE SUBJECT. And I'm really tired of this "does not help your case" crap. I don't have "a case".
And what "passing the buck" is there?
Source?
No, they're not. Or they wouldn't have cherry picked this BORDER COMMUNITY where life is controlled by the drug cartels.
Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-26-2020, 04:11 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Concerning Mexico the first cases came from Italy and the USA.
The spread of COVID-19 is not due to Mexicans. It came there from Italy and the USA.
Can you cite a source that identifies the Latin Americans as the source of the Virus in South Texas.Last edited by shunyadragon; 07-26-2020, 04:28 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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