Let's stop the nonsense about federal agents in Portland

[seer]

Maybe the baby's a boy!!!!

Oh, tender meat - I like your style!

[Sparko]

I asked if peaceful protesters outside the White House deserved to be tear-gassed and cited a quote from your own link concerning the [?inalienable?] right to peaceful protest.

They weren't teargassed. It was smoke canisters. And they had tried to burn down the Church Trump was heading to the day before.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

They weren't teargassed. It was smoke canisters.

And apparently pepper balls but the police added confusion by using the term "tear gas".

And they had tried to burn down the Church Trump was heading to the day before.

Yet still it stands.

However, your remarks do not address my question. Should peaceful protesters be dispersed with smoke canisters and pepper balls?

[Cow Poke]

And apparently pepper balls but the police added confusion by using the term "tear gas".

Yet still it stands.

However, your remarks do not address my question. Should peaceful protesters be dispersed with smoke canisters and pepper balls?

The way the leftist liberals have been using "peaceful protesters", sure.

ACTUAL peaceful protesters? Of course not.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The way the leftist liberals have been using "peaceful protesters", sure.

ACTUAL peaceful protesters? Of course not.

And how does one differentiate if one is not present?

[RumTumTugger]

Were the protesters outside the White House in June doing that?

We are talking about Portland Oregon here. where even the police admit they are rioting

[Gondwanaland]

And how does one differentiate if one is not present?

Are you suggesting the law enforcement is not present? Are they..... teleporting the 'smoke canisters and pepper balls'?


Beyond that oddity, I would suggest that there is this somewhat recent invention called 'video-recording'. It allows people to view something that has happened at a place without them having to have been present. These video things are widely distributed on the internet via things known as websites and social media. Anyone with access to that newfangled internet thingy can view them.

[Cow Poke]

And how does one differentiate if one is not present?

Portland? Simple...

Surveillance.

Officers are trained to watch the crowds, because, invariably, there is a "command and control" element. These people are very practiced anarchists. They coordinate with each other over radios, and they know how to attack, then blend in with the crowd, and "innocent protesters" will swarm in to block the police from apprehending the violent ones, or the command and control elements.

Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan --- somebody can be an enemy combatant one moment, and blend into the crowd the next as an innocent bystander.

Plain clothes officers will be in the crowd watching for command and control, and the antagonists and ring leaders, then coordinate efforts to cut that person (or persons) from the pack.

[JimL]

Portland? Simple...

Surveillance.

Officers are trained to watch the crowds, because, invariably, there is a "command and control" element.

Just make it up as you go, eh, CP?

These people are very practiced anarchists.

These people? These people are overwhelmingly peaceful protesters, but you apparently can't see or know that because your head is either submerged in the right wing propaganda bubble, or, you only see what you want to see.

They coordinate with each other over radios, and they know how to attack, then blend in with the crowd, and "innocent protesters" will swarm in to block the police from apprehending the violent ones, or the command and control elements.

Wow, another conservative conspiracy theorist. Why is it they all seem to be conservatives? What's up with that? Anarchists, coordinated communications, and even the innocent protesters are in on it now. And you've seen all this happening, right? No, of course you haven't. The actual small amount of violence "on the part of the protesters" is most likely going to get worse though, because more and more people are going to come out to protest because of what Trumps stormtroopers are doing, and that is all part of the Presidents plan. You think he's trying to protect federal buildings? Why, because that's what Trump is telling you? But if you were actually paying attention you'd know that's not the case. They are there to do exactly what they are doing, creating more chaos, trying to make the protesters look like what you've been sucked in to believing, that they are anarchists trying to overthrow the country with rocks and bottles or some such ridiculous nonsense.

Plain clothes officers will be in the crowd watching for command and control, and the antagonists and ring leaders, then coordinate efforts to cut that person (or persons) from the pack.

You're out of your cotton picking mind, CP. Perhaps you'd like to tell us as well who these anarchists are and what their ultimate intended goal is. Graffiti?

[rogue06]

Portland? Simple...

Surveillance.

Officers are trained to watch the crowds, because, invariably, there is a "command and control" element. These people are very practiced anarchists. They coordinate with each other over radios, and they know how to attack, then blend in with the crowd, and "innocent protesters" will swarm in to block the police from apprehending the violent ones, or the command and control elements.

Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan --- somebody can be an enemy combatant one moment, and blend into the crowd the next as an innocent bystander.

Plain clothes officers will be in the crowd watching for command and control, and the antagonists and ring leaders, then coordinate efforts to cut that person (or persons) from the pack.

The purpose of the umbrellas that you see is to prevent this sort of thing. They open them up and crowd together in order to block the view of those on the outside so nobody can see what is taking place. They open gaps up just long enough for a missile to be projected by a slingshot or for a mortar or commercial fireworks to be fired out and then they immediately close back up again.

Infiltration is about the only way to determine who the culprits are and those assisting them can hardly be deemed "peaceful protesters" as they are actively aiding and abetting them.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Portland? Simple...

Surveillance.

Officers are trained to watch the crowds, because, invariably, there is a "command and control" element. These people are very practiced anarchists. They coordinate with each other over radios, and they know how to attack, then blend in with the crowd, and "innocent protesters" will swarm in to block the police from apprehending the violent ones, or the command and control elements.

Same as in Iraq and Afghanistan --- somebody can be an enemy combatant one moment, and blend into the crowd the next as an innocent bystander.

Plain clothes officers will be in the crowd watching for command and control, and the antagonists and ring leaders, then coordinate efforts to cut that person (or persons) from the pack.

As I recollect all this is your opinion. You are assuming such practises are being adopted in Portland. I would add that Mr Casey is defined as an "OPINION CONTRIBUTOR" on your link.

[Watermelon]

Has the situation improved at all?

It seems like their presence has increased the number of protesters. I saw a picture today of a wall of veterans standing in front of the wall of mothers now.

[JimL]

Has the situation improved at all?

It seems like their presence has increased the number of protesters. I saw a picture today of a wall of veterans standing in front of the wall of mothers now.

They'll try to paint the veterans as anarchists as well. Trump realizes that his back is against the wall, he's like a cornered rat, and he's going to do anything within and and even beyond his powers to turn his prospects around.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

They'll try to paint the veterans as anarchists as well. Trump realizes that his back is against the wall, he's like a cornered rat, and he's going to do anything within and and even beyond his powers to turn his prospects around.

Please do not insult rats by making such a comparison.

Rats simply do what they need to survive, they are also highly intelligent creatures and females are good mothers.

[Cow Poke]

Just make it up as you go, eh, CP?

Nope.