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    Trump gives up made in USA, for allowing cheap foreign Meds.

    [cite=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/no-new-law-curb-drug-costs-trump-tries-own-changes-n1234891]

    With no new law to curb drug costs, Trump tries own changes for cheaper meds

    Consumers may not notice immediate changes, since the orders must be carried out by the federal bureaucracy and could face court challenges.

    WASHINGTON — Unable to land the big deal with Congress to curb drug costs, President Donald Trump on Friday moved on his own to allow imports of cheaper medicines, along with other limited steps that could have some election-year appeal.

    At a White House ceremony, Trump signed four executive orders. One was about importation. The others would direct drugmaker rebates straight to patients, provide insulin and EpiPens at steep discounts to low-income people, and use lower international prices to pay for some Medicare drugs.

    Trump cast his directives as far-reaching, but they mostly update earlier administration ideas that have not yet gone into effect.

    “I’m unrigging the system that is many decades old,” he declared, promising “massive” savings.

    Consumers may not notice immediate changes, since the orders must be carried out by the federal bureaucracy and could face court challenges.

    Democrats, meanwhile, are eager to draw a contrast between Trump and their own sweeping plans to authorize Medicare to negotiate lower prices with pharmaceutical companies, an idea the president had backed as a candidate. A bill by Speaker Nancy Pelosi already passed the House and aligns with presidential candidate Joe Biden's approach.

    Friday's event was definitely not the bill-signing the White House had once hoped for. Trump came into office complaining that pharmaceutical companies were “getting away with murder” and promising to bring them under control. Nearly four years later, things are much the same despite some recent moderation in price increases.

    Trump pulled his punches, Pelosi said in a statement. “After promising that he would ‘negotiate like crazy’ for lower prescription drug prices, it is clear that President Trump meant not negotiate at all,” she said, adding that if Trump is serious about lowering prices he should tell Senate Republicans to pass her bill.

    A drive to enact major legislation this year stalled in Congress. Although Trump told Republican senators that lowering prescription prices is “something you have to do,” many remain reluctant to use federal authority to force drugmakers to charge less.

    Meanwhile, congressional Democrats calculate that the election will strengthen their hand, and they'll finally be able to enact a law that authorizes Medicare to negotiate prices directly. Neither side in Congress has had an incentive to deal, and the White House has been unable to work Trump's will.

    Last year the House did pass Pelosi's Medicare negotiations bill, which would have capped out-of-pocket drug costs for older people and expanded program benefits as well. It had no path forward in the Republican Senate, and the White House calls it unworkable.

    But there was an alternative. A bipartisan Senate bill backed by Trump stopped short of giving Medicare bargaining power, but would have limited annual price increases and capped costs for older people. The bill passed out of a Senate committee but was never brought to the full body.

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    “It’s not clear why the administration hasn’t made a bigger push to line up votes to get a bill through the Senate and a deal with Congress, given strong public support to lower drug costs,” said Tricia Neuman, a Medicare expert with the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

    Americans remain worried about drug costs, with nearly 9 in 10 saying in a recent Gallup-West Health poll that they're concerned the pharmaceutical industry will take advantage of the coronavirus pandemic to raise prices. Another Gallup-West Health survey found 65% saying the Trump administration had made little or no progress limiting increases in prescription drug costs.

    It's a particularly important issue for older people, who rely on medications to manage the medical problems associated with advancing age. Trump's support has eroded among the elderly during the haphazard federal response to COVID-19.

    Drugmakers remain adamantly opposed to government efforts to curb prices. Trump's administration "has decided to pursue a radical and dangerous policy to set prices based on rates paid in countries that he has labeled as socialist, which will harm patients today and into the future," Stephen Ubl, head of the pharmaceutical lobby, said in a statement.

    Trump delayed the effective date of the international pricing order for a month, to see if he can get a deal with industry.

    The four orders would:

    — Allow states, wholesalers and pharmacies to import FDA-approved drugs from foreign countries and sell them in the U.S. Trump has long complained that countries where the government sets the price of drugs are taking advantage of American consumers. The order includes a special provision to allow wholesalers and pharmacies to re-import insulin and biological drugs.

    — Use the lowest price among other economically advanced countries to set what Medicare pays for certain drugs administered in a doctor's office, including many cancer medications. This would apply to the most expensive medications covered by Medicare's “Part B,” which pays for outpatient care. Drugmakers are particularly leery of the approach, since Democrats want to use it more broadly to allow Medicare to directly negotiate prices.

    — Direct federally funded community health centers to pass discounts they now get for insulin and EpiPens directly to low-income patients.

    — Ensure that rebates drugmakers now pay to benefit managers and insurers get passed directly to patients when they buy a medication. The White House last year withdrew an earlier version of the proposal, after the Congressional Budget Office estimated it would cost taxpayers $177 billion over 10 years.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

  • #2
    This is off-topic, but did you see the recent story that the Trump Organization ordered tons of goods from China, even as he was waging a trade war with that country?

    Sure, he's a stupid dishonest tool, but I guess I don't mind him trying this to lower drug costs; it's about time that he did something useful.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
      This is off-topic, but did you see the recent story that the Trump Organization ordered tons of goods from China, even as he was waging a trade war with that country?

      Sure, he's a stupid dishonest tool, but I guess I don't mind him trying this to lower drug costs; it's about time that he did something useful.
      Not really off topic. Trumps inconsistent international trade policies extend to his own business dealings.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • #4
        YAY!!! Another OMBT!!!!
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          YAY!!! Another OMBT!!!!
          O, come on. Think about how boring Civics would be without all the OMBT threads. No defamatory comments to amuse or enrage on another with. All the entertainment value would be gone and instead Civics would be a place were people come together and work out the solutions to all the world's ills.
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            YAY!!! Another OMBT!!!!
            Reminds me of the Obama years.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              Reminds me of the Obama years.
              Seriously? OrangeManBad is acceptable, I'm not EVEN gonna go....
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                For people with T1 and T2-insulin dependent, this is FANTASTIC news. The domestic suppliers have a stranglehold on insulin prices, and have been gouging the public for years. Hopefully, opening up the pool of suppliers to less expensive non-domestic producers will make the price much more affordable.

                Win for Trump! Win for diabetics!
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • #9
                  Too bad Congress isn't willing to work with the President to put together a piece of legislation that both sides can agree with. Looks like ol' Nancy is taking the "Either do it my way, or don't do it at all" approach which is forcing Trump to look for alternative solutions.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    Too bad Congress isn't willing to work with the President to put together a piece of legislation that both sides can agree with. Looks like ol' Nancy is taking the "Either do it my way, or don't do it at all" approach which is forcing Trump to look for alternative solutions.
                    And the Pharma heads sure were not happy about it either. Their bought and paid for lifetime politicians had no say for once.
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #11
                      These aren't foreign made drugs. These are the SAME drugs made by the SAME manufacturers that US healthcare facilities can buy from Canada at a fraction of the price they can get them from US distributors.


                      Only a liberal could turn cheaper drug prices into an attack on Trump.

                      As someone who is currently paying nearly $1000 for one of my drugs per month (that is MY cost after the insurance discount) I think this is great news. I am also paying up to $400/month for insulin pens right now. I have to pay all this out of my pocket until my insurance deductible is met. I have a $4,000/per year deductible that I have to meet, then the insurance takes over. I pay that deductible in TWO months right now.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Seriously? OrangeManBad is acceptable, I'm not EVEN gonna go....
                        Not saying this is bad, just that it reminded me of the Obama years.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          Not saying this is bad, just that it reminded me of the Obama years.
                          You remember the media assaulting Obama 24/7/365 with a vengeance?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            You remember the media assaulting Obama 24/7/365 with a vengeance?
                            Or Ashley Judd reminding Obama what a "nasty woman" she is?
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              You remember the media assaulting Obama 24/7/365 with a vengeance?
                              I certainly remember conservative media being more or less an hour of hate against Obama. Everything he did was going to cause the fall of the US.

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