Obama's Foreign Policy Sell-out

[Cow Poke]

I find your anti-Idaho bigotry offensive. I demand a retraction.

I hereby fully and unconditionally retract.

Also, I grew up in Idaho.

One of our best vacations was in a cabin (a HUGE cabin) in Idaho. (on the way from Salt Lake City)

[Zymologist]

I hereby fully and unconditionally retract.



One of our best vacations was in a cabin (a HUGE cabin) in Idaho. (on the way from Salt Lake City)

Just to be clear, my comment was meant in jest. I should've said, "I resemble that remark!"

[Cow Poke]

Just to be clear, my comment was meant in jest. I should've said, "I resemble that remark!"

I took it as such. Nevertheless, I hungded my head in shame for casting aspersions on all the good folks of Idaho.

[rogue06]

I took it as such. Nevertheless, I hungded my head in shame for casting aspersions on all the good folks of Idaho.

More like you were afeared that they'd cut you off and you couldn't make any more baked tater soup.

[Zymologist]

all the good folks of Idaho.

Why, there's at least a hundred of us!

Edit: I'm actually a Montanan now, but we're pretty much the same.

[seer]

I think there is a lot more than meets the eye. Why on earth would you have soldiers sign nondisclosure agreements?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/ber...erter-or-hero/

Many of Bergdahl's fellow troops -- from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad to the larger group that made up the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division -- told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.

[Cow Poke]

The AMAZING thing is that Obama sees this is a huge foreign policy success.

[seer]

The AMAZING thing is that Obama sees this is a huge foreign policy success.

You know, this may blow up in his face.

[Cow Poke]

You know, this may blow up in his face.

I don't know, the MSM may still bail him out, but even lil ol' Jay Carney has jumped ship. If the media decides to focus on Hillary, to help set her up as Queen, it's possible they may leave Obama hangin' out to dry.

[Teallaura]

You know, this may blow up in his face.

May, nothing - first time a family gets on TV talking about the death of their loved one kidnapped because every bunch of loons thinks it's Open Season on Americans there will be a firestorm.

[Teallaura]

Also, Idaho is close to Canada and it SNOWS there. It must necessarily be evil.

[One Bad Pig]

Also, Idaho is close to Canada and it SNOWS there. It must necessarily be evil.

Didn't it snow in Alabamistan this past winter?

[Teallaura]

Didn't it snow in Alabamistan this past winter?

Yes, it was an attack by evil mutant weather. It's not SUPPOSED to snow here!!!!!

[rogue06]

When you factor in his last e-mail to his parents sent the day before his disappearance and capture the conclusion that he was a deserter is reasonable:

Source: Wikipedia: Bowe Bergdahl

"In the US army you are cut down for being honest... but if you are a conceited brown nosing [slang for excrement] bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want, and you will be handed your higher rank... The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools...I am sorry for everything here. These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid, that they have no idea how to live. We don't even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks... We make fun of them in front of their faces, and laugh at them for not understanding we are insulting them...I am sorry for everything. The horror that is america is disgusting...There are a few more boxes coming to you guys. Feel free to open them, and use them."

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As more details surface it appears that Bergdahl wasn't worth "rescuing" and that he did indeed desert.

From the New York Times we learn that he left a letter for his comrades stating that he was leaving to start a "new life":

Source: Bowe Bergdahl�s Vanishing Before Capture Angered His Unit

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Source: Bergdahl's team leader: Intercepted radio chatter said he sought talks with the Taliban

Within days of his disappearance, says Buetow, teams monitoring radio chatter and cell phone communications intercepted an alarming message: The American is in Yahya Khel (a village two miles away). He's looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.

"I heard it straight from the interpreter's lips as he heard it over the radio," said Buetow. "There's a lot more to this story than a soldier walking away."


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Buetow also cited his concern that Bergdahl might have even began assisting the Taliban with their attacks on soldiers searching for him

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"Following his disappearance, IEDs started going off directly under the trucks. They were getting perfect hits every time. Their ambushes were very calculated, very methodical," said Buetow.

It was "very suspicious," says Buetow, noting that Bergdahl knew sensitive information about the movement of U.S. trucks, the weaponry on those trucks, and how soldiers would react to attacks.

"We were incredibly worried" that Bergdahl was giving up information, either under torture, or otherwise, says Buetow.

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That his suspicions may be true were apparently verified by others a few years ago

Source: Taliban claim captured U.S. solider has converted to Islam and is teaching its fighters bomb-making skills

A captured American soldier is training Taliban fighters bomb-making and ambush skills, according to one of his captors and Afghan intelligence officials.

Private Bowe Bergdahl disappeared in June 2009 while based in eastern Afghanistan and is thought to be the only U.S. serviceman in captivity.

The 24-year-old has converted to Islam and now has the Muslim name Abdullah, one of his captors told The Sunday Times.

A Taliban deputy district commander in Paktika, who called himself Haji Nadeem, told the newspaper that Bergdahl taught him how to dismantle a mobile phone and turn it into a remote control for a roadside bomb.

Nadeem claimed he also received basic ambush training from the U.S. soldier.

'Most of the skills he taught us we already knew,' he said. 'Some of my comrades think he's pretending to be a Muslim to save himself so they wouldn't behead him.'

Afghan intelligence officials also believe that Bergdahl is 'cooperating with the Taliban' and is acting as adviser to fighters at a base in the tribal area of Pakistan.


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All of this might explain why the Pentagon never officially listed Bergdahl as a Prisoner of War or why (after already losing fourteen men looking for him) that they wouldn't attempt any rescue operation for him although they knew where he was.

Source: Pentagon knew Bergdahl�s whereabouts but didn�t risk rescue for �deserter�

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It might also explain why Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said that "it's premature" to think there will be no charges against Bergdahl and if any misconduct is found, Army leaders "will not look away" (although he emphasized that Bergdahl is to be presumed innocent as the investigation takes place).

All of this comes just days after Susan Rice, Obama's national security adviser said Bergdahl served with "honor and distinction" and Obama himself celebrated the announcement of the prisoner swap in a White House Rose Garden press statement.

[Cow Poke]

All of this comes just days after Susan Rice, Obama's national security adviser said Bergdahl served with "honor and distinction" and Obama himself celebrated the announcement of the prisoner swap in a White House Rose Garden press statement.

I thought I saw, just the other day, Susan Rice referring to him as a Marine... but I can't seem to find where I saw that.


But what you said... YESH!