Nadler: Antifa violence is a myth

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

A) You DO realize that they went through a very thorough peaceful and well-thought out process before "rising up", yes?
2) They also realized that their actions were an act of war, and were willing to risk their very lives, Fortunes and Sacred Honor.

These were sober men (though they frequently met in taverns :)), not a bunch of self-centered anarchists looting and burning and rioting.

You do realise that what you have written is history as mythology? Or to use movie director John Ford's line "Print the legend".

[rogue06]

1) How do you know he was attacked before he used the pepper spray? Your source suggests the opposite

No. It is neutral, but if he used it first the WaPo would have gleefully pounced on that rather than described the conservatives as "peaceful right-wing demonstrators."

This was all in the post that you you chopped the one sentence out of.

2) Why did he have pepper spray in the first place?

Lots of folks carry it or even tasers in lieu of a firearm for personal protection.

[rogue06]

Their behaviour is no more irrational than that of the American Patriots of the late eighteenth century. Then many American colonists felt they living were under a tyrannical government. Today many black Americans feel they are living under similar circumstances.

Furthermore the violence of the 1770s has been [to an extent] mythologised [or overlooked] and is applauded and celebrated every year.

Thank you for proving my point yet again that you are trying to rationalize the rioters behavior.

[Ronson]

I wish Nadler was a myth.

[Sparko]

It is a myth, saying that there are videos of of fires and violence is not the same thing as showing the videos of Antifa causing fires and violence. You don't hear them accusing the many right wing supremecists, the Boogaloo boys, the proud boys etc etc do you? Of course not, that would not fit their narrative.

Dear JimL. I thought your story was that the protesters were peaceful and it was the fault of a few mixed in that was causing all of the destruction. Like Antifa. Who's stated mission is to be violent and destroy. Who has been burning and beating people up, and destroying property for 4 years now at nearly every political gathering. Yet now you are saying they weren't causing it in Portland, the HOME of the Rose City antifa, the oldest Antifa group in the country?

I guess then we have to just conclude that the protesters themselves were the violent ones and not peaceful. Which is it?

[Sparko]

Antifa protest in Oregon leads to 3 arrests, suspect sought for defacing war memorial
https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-or...rest-vandalism

Antifa Rioters Break Into Portland Police Union and Set It on Fire as Mayor Hamstrings Federal Troops
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...troops-n661172

[Cow Poke]

....and unfortunately the gullible like CP are believing them...

You're responding to JimL, who is the most gullible poster Tweb has ever had.

[Cow Poke]

This article is about how the participants in the protest are very diverse, and how the people who have previously been in antifa are only the tiniest fraction of the people attending these protests....

The claim was that antifa had nothing to do with the riots.

[Cow Poke]

Dear JimL. I thought your story was that the protesters were peaceful and it was the fault of a few mixed in that was causing all of the destruction. Like Antifa. Who's stated mission is to be violent and destroy. Who has been burning and beating people up, and destroying property for 4 years now at nearly every political gathering. Yet now you are saying they weren't causing it in Portland, the HOME of the Rose City antifa, the oldest Antifa group in the country?

I guess then we have to just conclude that the protesters themselves were the violent ones and not peaceful. Which is it?

He's in denial that his buddies are causing chaos.

[Sparko]

He's in denial that his buddies are causing chaos.

If the violence is all caused by white supremacist infiltrators () then why are the liberals so upset about the feds arresting people who cause the violence?

[seer]

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[Cow Poke]

If the violence is all caused by white supremacist infiltrators () then why are the liberals so upset about the feds arresting people who cause the violence?

And are these "peaceful protesters" so STUPID that they keep "peacefully protesting" in the middle of a riot?
You have to be a MORON to believe this crap.

Any actual PEACEFUL protester would want to clearly disassociate themselves and their group with the violence, and move somewhere else to peacefully protest.

[Sparko]

And are these "peaceful protesters" so STUPID that they keep "peacefully protesting" in the middle of a riot?
You have to be a MORON to believe this crap.

Any actual PEACEFUL protester would want to clearly disassociate themselves and their group with the violence, and move somewhere else to peacefully protest.

Why are they peacefully protesting in front of the federal courthouse at night anyway? I thought they were protesting Black Lives Matter and police brutality?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Thank you for proving my point yet again that you are trying to rationalize the rioters behavior.

Where precisely is the difference between what is happening now in parts of the USA and what happened in the 1760s and 1770s?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Antifa protest in Oregon leads to 3 arrests, suspect sought for defacing war memorial
https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifa-or...rest-vandalism

Antifa Rioters Break Into Portland Police Union and Set It on Fire as Mayor Hamstrings Federal Troops
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...troops-n661172

According to one Loyalist account, Dr. Abner Bebee of East Haddam, Connecticut, experienced a vile variation of the ritual of tarring and feathering. Bebee had complained about mob abuse of his uncle and had voiced pro-British views when he, too, was assaulted by a mob one night. They tarred and feathered the physician and mill owner and then took him to a hog sty, where they rubbed dung into his eyes and rammed it down his throat before thus exposing him to some women. The mob attacked Bebee’s house, causing his child to go “into Distraction,” destroyed his gristmill, and, finally, instructed the community to break off all contact with Bebee.

As the historian Ann Withington has put it, such public rituals of "punishment “first marked the victims as abnormal and corrupt, then rendered them ridiculous and contemptible, and finally dramatized
their separation from the community.” Patriots debased and defiled, humiliated and dehumanized, their Loyalist neighbors. [See Scars of Independence, Holger Hoock, 2017]

As far as I am aware the BLM protestors have yet to resort to actions such as the above.