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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    It appears there are certainly elements in the community of people of color who want to push this to a race war.

    And there are certain elements in the alt-right community who would gladly say, "hey Bubba, hold my beer and hand me my AR".
    There was an incident near me. A white police officer accidentally turned on his dashcam and was casualling telling another officer how he was looking forward to shooting black people in the coming race war. It made me wonder how many people are thinking it but not saying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    There was an incident near me. A white police officer accidentally turned on his dashcam and was casualling telling another officer how he was looking forward to shooting black people in the coming race war. It made me wonder how many people are thinking it but not saying it.
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    All humans ar epotentially, but necessarily racist as individuals, because of the nature of being fallible human. Nonetheless our Anglo Saxon white culture is historically extremely tribal and racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    If you found their behavior suspicious only because they were black, then you're probably a racist. If they were behaving genuinely suspiciously, then you're probably not.

    I personally don't have this hangup, but then again, I'm also not a liberal.
    You're barely human, though, so the latter isn't surprising.

    It's not a hangup, but it's something I need to be wary of. Recognizing that the problem exists is a good way to keep it from being a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    This is known as 'argument by weblink', and is not allowed.
    In context, I just assumed it was a link to some even more "nonsensical" stuff he himself had said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonhard View Post
    As for the main thesis of the book by Robin DiAngelo I found it very interesting. I think what gets to people is that she takes a more modern sociological systems view of racism, where conservatives tend to focus on specific and very explicit actions on an individual level.

    Her whole point has also been that white people tend to get unreasonable upset when critical questions are asked, and it is suggested that we have tendencies, assumptions or biases that we might not be aware of. It's this unreasonableness that she's called 'White Fragility'.

    https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/s...robin-diangelo

    I have her book on the backburner, right now I'm reading the Oxford series on American History.

    Source: Robin DiAngelo - Tolerance Magazine

    What are some ways that white people can begin to build their emotional stamina?

    Foundationally [we] have to change our idea of what it means to be racist. As long as you define a racist as an individual who intentionally is mean, based on race, you’re going to feel defensive. When I say you’ve been shaped by a racist system—that it is inevitable that you have racist biases and patterns and investments—you’re going to feel offended by that. You will hear it as a comment on your moral character. You’re going to feel offended by that if you don’t change how you’re interpreting what I just said. And I would actually agree with anyone who felt offended when I say, “It is inevitable that you are racist,” if their definition of a racist is someone who means harm.

    When we understand racism as a system that we have been raised in and that its impact is inevitable, it’s really not a question of good or bad. It’s just, “I have it. I have been socialized into it.” And so, “What am I going to do about it?” is really the question. And that’s where, I think, maybe some guilt could come in, when you know that and you’re still not going to do anything about it. I don’t struggle with guilt because, to the best of my ability, I am trying to challenge my socialization. So, let me be really clear: As a result of being raised as a white person in this society, I have a racist worldview. I have racist biases. I have developed racist patterns as a result, and I have investments in the system of racism. It’s incredibly comfortable. It’s certainly helped me with the barriers that I do face. And I also have investments in not seeing anything I just said—because of what it would suggest to me about my identity as a good person, if I’m coming from the dominant definition, and what it would actually require of me in action. I don’t feel guilty about that, but I do feel responsible for what I do with that socialization.

    Change how you understand what it means to be racist, and then act on that understanding. Because if you change your understanding, but you don’t do anything different, then you’re colluding.

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    "Foundationally," this pseudo-intellectual twit has concocted a brand-new unique definition of "racism," and demands we recognize it as THE definition.

    No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whateverman View Post
    You're barely human, though...
    dehumanization of those you disagree with.

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    Whateverman, are you black? Not trying to offend, just genuinely curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    dehumanization of those you disagree with.
    Like the Nazis did with Jews...
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Like the Nazis did with Jews...
    Do not forget the Nazi race theory towards the Slavs or those of African origin. The Nazi ideology did not target only Jews.
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