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Originally posted by whag View PostHow about just hire competent, emotionally stable officers who don’t escalate situations?
A) They're already working for a department, so you'll have to pay them more and equip them
2) They're brand new, and you have to pay for Police Academy.
"more money"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostDude, I listed examples of reform in the post you omitted.
Just because you list a few examples in your favor doesn't mean reform in general "requires MORE funding, not less"
ps. a nod to rogue who provided an excellent example for you.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View Post... and other kinds of reform require less money. Getting rid of tactical weaponry, for example.
Just because you list a few examples in your favor doesn't mean reform in general "requires MORE funding, not less"
ps. a nod to rogue who provided an excellent example for you.
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Originally posted by whag View Post
And none of this changes the fact that you have exposed yourself as a malicious racist.Last edited by rogue06; 08-07-2020, 02:51 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by whag View PostWhich of course totally explains why red states have always been the standard bearers of police reform.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by whag View PostWhich of course totally explains why red states have always been the standard bearers of police reform.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThey keep talking about hiring social workers to handle non-violent situations, but as any police officer will tell you, a non-violent situation can unexpectedly turn violent in the blink of an eye."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostI've heard that. I've also heard that police hate domestic disturbance calls more than another because they don't know what they're walking into. The instinct might be to send in a social worker but if it turns violent in a hurry, you might end up with a dead social worker.
If it's a social worker with no arrest powers, it's probably not going to turn violent --- but, yeah - you don't know that til you get there.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMeanwhile study after study has shown that in a confrontation with police a white person is significantly more likely to be shot and killed than a black person is. This is a fact and has been confirmed enough times that research has now turned to discovering why this is the case.
“According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.”
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...-black-people/
And don’t hand wave away Brown’s experience again but logically explain why 7 officers are needed for a traffic stop and Brown needed to exit her vehicle. Then explain how Executioners faction is tolerated. Take your time. I’ll wait.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd none of this changes the fact that you have exposed yourself as a malicious racist.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostNow THAT takes money. Where are you going to hire them from?
A) They're already working for a department, so you'll have to pay them more and equip them
2) They're brand new, and you have to pay for Police Academy.
"more money"
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Originally posted by whag View PostI understand, but what is wrong with the default training?
Chris Rock makes an excellent point about airline pilot training being more stringent than police training.
If aviation training was proportionally as defective as police training, there’d be a lot more plane crashes.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by whag View Post“According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.”Last edited by seer; 08-07-2020, 03:18 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is because being 13% of the population blacks commit 50% of the murders and 48% of robberies. So the police are dealing with a more violent group - so we are likely to see more police shootings. As a matter of fact, if we track by the murder/robbery rate blacks should be 50% of police shootings.
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