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NY attorney General moves to dissolve the NRA for Fraud.

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  • #16
    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    And that is exactly the reason the Atty General is acting to dissolve the organization. The corrution is not just with Lapiere and the other 3 named in the suit, it's widespread, throughout the organization. So removing the 4 corrupt individuals named in the suit doesn't change the corrupt nature of the organization from the ground up and the only way to do that is to dissolve the organization completely.
    I'll have to do some reading on this subject.

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    • #17
      Following Trump's business model, but unfortunately we cannot disolve Trump until January, I hope melt down begins in Novermber..
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      • #18
        A question for the NRA supporters - I have no bones in this fight - If the allegations of widespread corruption is correct, what ought to be done?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
          Sounds like you're not all that keen on law and order. An AG has discretion to launch investigations independent of whether you think they're justified or not.
          Uh no they don't. There has to be evidence a crime was committed. She is looking at everything and everyone in Trump's orbit. That is abuse of power

          That's the Trump presidency. If you don't oppose his abuses of power, you can't oppose this one (with any credibility or moral authority).
          Whataboutism for thee, but not for me. Got it.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            A question for the NRA supporters - I have no bones in this fight - If the allegations of widespread corruption is correct, what ought to be done?
            Due process for each one should be followed. Any found guilty should be removed. That's it.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              A question for the NRA supporters - I have no bones in this fight - If the allegations of widespread corruption is correct, what ought to be done?
              Investigate and prosecute individuals using due process and current law.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Investigate and prosecute individuals using due process and current law.
                Like Trump university, which had to settle the suit for $25 million was dissolved, the NRA was corrupt from the top down robbing and covering up the fraud of over $64 million dollars of membership dollars.

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                • #23
                  If they misappropriated or misapplied funds, then it is us dues-payers who were wronged. Any justr remedy must include either returning our dues or applying them to some similar organization, such as GOA.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                    If they misappropriated or misapplied funds, then it is us dues-payers who were wronged. Any justr remedy must include either returning our dues or applying them to some similar organization, such as GOA.
                    Yes, you dues payors were bilked out of a cool $64 mil. by the "non-profit" organization.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Yes, you dues payors were bilked out of a cool $64 mil. by the "non-profit" organization.
                      That's pocket change compared to what your union heroes pull in and waste.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Investigate and prosecute individuals using due process and current law.
                        That's about what I imagine will and should happen. The NRA isn't fraudulent in. It is not a scam. Widespread corruption should be pursued relentlessly, and this may or may not kill the organization depending on how much litigation will happen, however dissolving the organization in itself doesn't seem right.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          That's about what I imagine will and should happen. The NRA isn't fraudulent in. It is not a scam. Widespread corruption should be pursued relentlessly, and this may or may not kill the organization depending on how much litigation will happen, however dissolving the organization in itself doesn't seem right.
                          The NRA basically functions as a union, which has all kinds of opportunity for fiscal abuse. There should be MUCH more transparency and accountability so it does NOT look "like a union".
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            That's pocket change compared to what your union heroes pull in and waste.
                            That's quite possibly true, but whataboutism is a defense it's an excuse.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              That's quite possibly true, but whataboutism is a defense it's an excuse.
                              Ah, Jimmy learned a new word*! It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. There needs to be fiscal accountability in such agencies across the board.



                              *you appear to become aware of a new buzzword, then use it inappropriately over and over.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Ah, Jimmy learned a new word*! It's not an excuse, it's an explanation. There needs to be fiscal accountability in such agencies across the board.



                                *you appear to become aware of a new buzzword, then use it inappropriately over and over.
                                No CP. The whataboutism defense is an excuse, pure and simple.

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