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    Four in Five Black Americans Want Same or More Cop Presence in Neighborhood

    Charles Fain Lehman - August 5, 2020 11:28 AM

    Over 80 percent of black Americans want the police to spend as much or more time in their neighborhoods as they currently do, new polling from Gallup conducted last month finds.

    Asked if they would prefer police spend more, less, or the same amount of time in their neighborhoods, 61 percent of black respondents told Gallup the same, while a further 20 percent said more. Just 19 percent said less. Black respondents were more likely to want more police presence than white, Asian, and all adults overall.

    The overwhelming support for current levels of policing even holds among black respondents who say they see the police often or very often. Two in three of those say they would like to see the police the same amount or more; 84 percent of black respondents who see the police "sometimes" responded that way, along with 92 percent of those who see the police rarely or never.

    These findings are just the latest survey evidence to run contrary to the intuitions underlying the progressive push to defund police departments. They also confirm the view that some black communities are likely under-policed, suggesting the need for more, rather than fewer, police.

    The poll does find that black Americans are less likely to be confident that they would be treated "with courtesy and respect" by police. Although the plurality of black respondents said they were "somewhat confident," they were more likely than white, Hispanic, and Asian respondents to say they were "not too" or "not at all" confident, and less likely to say they were "very" confident.

    Notably, the poll finds that how police officers treat people has a strong effect on their support for the police. While simply having an interaction with the police has no effect on black respondents' preference for level of police presence, 45 percent of those who reported not being treated with respect in those interactions wanted a smaller police presence, compared to just 13 percent who felt respected.

    The widespread support for larger police presence overall follows more general polling trends apparent since the start of protests surrounding the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd. Large majorities of Americans report trusting their local police departments.

    Almost as many consistently oppose the move to "defund" the police, perhaps explaining why many national Democrats, including presidential nominee Joe Biden, have been loath to publicly support the movement. Even in Minneapolis, many black residents oppose efforts to defund—a stark departure from the views of the majority-white city council.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Four in Five Black Americans Want Same or More Cop Presence in Neighborhood

    Charles Fain Lehman - August 5, 2020 11:28 AM

    Over 80 percent of black Americans want the police to spend as much or more time in their neighborhoods as they currently do, new polling from Gallup conducted last month finds.

    Asked if they would prefer police spend more, less, or the same amount of time in their neighborhoods, 61 percent of black respondents told Gallup the same, while a further 20 percent said more. Just 19 percent said less. Black respondents were more likely to want more police presence than white, Asian, and all adults overall.

    The overwhelming support for current levels of policing even holds among black respondents who say they see the police often or very often. Two in three of those say they would like to see the police the same amount or more; 84 percent of black respondents who see the police "sometimes" responded that way, along with 92 percent of those who see the police rarely or never.

    These findings are just the latest survey evidence to run contrary to the intuitions underlying the progressive push to defund police departments. They also confirm the view that some black communities are likely under-policed, suggesting the need for more, rather than fewer, police.

    The poll does find that black Americans are less likely to be confident that they would be treated "with courtesy and respect" by police. Although the plurality of black respondents said they were "somewhat confident," they were more likely than white, Hispanic, and Asian respondents to say they were "not too" or "not at all" confident, and less likely to say they were "very" confident.

    Notably, the poll finds that how police officers treat people has a strong effect on their support for the police. While simply having an interaction with the police has no effect on black respondents' preference for level of police presence, 45 percent of those who reported not being treated with respect in those interactions wanted a smaller police presence, compared to just 13 percent who felt respected.

    The widespread support for larger police presence overall follows more general polling trends apparent since the start of protests surrounding the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd. Large majorities of Americans report trusting their local police departments.

    Almost as many consistently oppose the move to "defund" the police, perhaps explaining why many national Democrats, including presidential nominee Joe Biden, have been loath to publicly support the movement. Even in Minneapolis, many black residents oppose efforts to defund—a stark departure from the views of the majority-white city council.
    Weird you posted this since Sean posted the same thing yesterday.

    Two important points:

    The first is bolded. If we are to trust this is a significant finding, we should also trust black people about their wariness of being singled out and swarmed upon for minor violations, like the mayor of Compton, California:



    Second, if American voters have influence, then there's no reason to fear abolition of policing since blacks, like all Americans, express their community concerns via ballot.

    Unfortunately, some GOP election commissioners don't see it that way:

    ""I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too.""
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/...ts/3280055001/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by whag View Post
      Weird you posted this since Sean posted the same thing yesterday.
      Why weird? That happens.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Four in Five Black Americans Want Same or More Cop Presence in Neighborhood

        Charles Fain Lehman - August 5, 2020 11:28 AM

        Over 80 percent of black Americans want the police to spend as much or more time in their neighborhoods as they currently do, new polling from Gallup conducted last month finds.

        Asked if they would prefer police spend more, less, or the same amount of time in their neighborhoods, 61 percent of black respondents told Gallup the same, while a further 20 percent said more. Just 19 percent said less. Black respondents were more likely to want more police presence than white, Asian, and all adults overall.

        The overwhelming support for current levels of policing even holds among black respondents who say they see the police often or very often. Two in three of those say they would like to see the police the same amount or more; 84 percent of black respondents who see the police "sometimes" responded that way, along with 92 percent of those who see the police rarely or never.

        These findings are just the latest survey evidence to run contrary to the intuitions underlying the progressive push to defund police departments. They also confirm the view that some black communities are likely under-policed, suggesting the need for more, rather than fewer, police.

        The poll does find that black Americans are less likely to be confident that they would be treated "with courtesy and respect" by police. Although the plurality of black respondents said they were "somewhat confident," they were more likely than white, Hispanic, and Asian respondents to say they were "not too" or "not at all" confident, and less likely to say they were "very" confident.

        Notably, the poll finds that how police officers treat people has a strong effect on their support for the police. While simply having an interaction with the police has no effect on black respondents' preference for level of police presence, 45 percent of those who reported not being treated with respect in those interactions wanted a smaller police presence, compared to just 13 percent who felt respected.

        The widespread support for larger police presence overall follows more general polling trends apparent since the start of protests surrounding the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd. Large majorities of Americans report trusting their local police departments.

        Almost as many consistently oppose the move to "defund" the police, perhaps explaining why many national Democrats, including presidential nominee Joe Biden, have been loath to publicly support the movement. Even in Minneapolis, many black residents oppose efforts to defund—a stark departure from the views of the majority-white city council.
        For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

        Since blacks are obviously incapable of understanding the situation for themselves it is a good thing that there are more than enough white leftists willing to step in taking control of the situation for them






        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          Why weird? That happens.
          Weird because it's essentially a duplicate of what sean posted, and you were aware of his post?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by whag View Post
            Weird because it's essentially a duplicate of what sean posted, and you were aware of his post?
            I really don't keep track of every post on Tweb, and I don't remember all of the ones I do see.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              I really don't keep track of every post on Tweb, and I don't remember all of the ones I do see.
              Then might I suggest you're posting too much? This was just yesterday.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by whag View Post
                Then might I suggest you're posting too much? This was just yesterday.
                Charles, is that you?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

                  Since blacks are obviously incapable of understanding the situation for themselves it is a good thing that there are more than enough white leftists willing to step in taking control of the situation for them





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                  If blacks will vote against defund police measures and candidates, what's the problem? It seems like you're equally incapable of trusting black people to vote anything but Trump, despite Trump's continual patronistic insistence that he's done more for blacks than any president.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    Charles, is that you?


                    Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Charles, is that you?
                      I'm afraid not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by whag View Post
                        I'm afraid not.
                        Like this?

                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by whag View Post
                          If blacks will vote against defund police measures and candidates, what's the problem? It seems like you're equally incapable of trusting black people to vote anything but Trump, despite Trump's continual patronistic insistence that he's done more for blacks than any president.
                          Sure, let's go for it. With roughly 80% of blacks opposed to the idea this should be an eye-opener for the radical left. Then of course, they aren't putting these things up for a vote but rather are making the decision for those they think are not smart enough to make the "right" choice.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Sure, let's go for it. With roughly 80% of blacks opposed to the idea this should be an eye-opener for the radical left.
                            With Trump down by 7-10 points in all swing states, this should be an eye-opener for radical right.

                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Then of course, they aren't putting these things up for a vote but rather are making the decision for those they think are not smart enough to make the "right" choice.
                            You bring up a good point about political matter/antimatter:

                            On the right: Trump's mythical MAGA-hat wearing black supporters. So many!

                            On the left: Bidens mythical triggered white Karen liberals who know better than blacks. So many!

                            Let's trust the process of voting and not freak that either small faction will override moderate American sentiment. If blacks want police presence, they'll make it known in elections. You seem to be reserving the right to blame others when vote doesn't go your way.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Four in Five Black Americans Want Same or More Cop Presence in Neighborhood

                              Charles Fain Lehman - August 5, 2020 11:28 AM

                              Over 80 percent of black Americans want the police to spend as much or more time in their neighborhoods as they currently do, new polling from Gallup conducted last month finds.

                              Asked if they would prefer police spend more, less, or the same amount of time in their neighborhoods, 61 percent of black respondents told Gallup the same, while a further 20 percent said more. Just 19 percent said less. Black respondents were more likely to want more police presence than white, Asian, and all adults overall.

                              The overwhelming support for current levels of policing even holds among black respondents who say they see the police often or very often. Two in three of those say they would like to see the police the same amount or more; 84 percent of black respondents who see the police "sometimes" responded that way, along with 92 percent of those who see the police rarely or never.

                              These findings are just the latest survey evidence to run contrary to the intuitions underlying the progressive push to defund police departments. They also confirm the view that some black communities are likely under-policed, suggesting the need for more, rather than fewer, police.

                              The poll does find that black Americans are less likely to be confident that they would be treated "with courtesy and respect" by police. Although the plurality of black respondents said they were "somewhat confident," they were more likely than white, Hispanic, and Asian respondents to say they were "not too" or "not at all" confident, and less likely to say they were "very" confident.

                              Notably, the poll finds that how police officers treat people has a strong effect on their support for the police. While simply having an interaction with the police has no effect on black respondents' preference for level of police presence, 45 percent of those who reported not being treated with respect in those interactions wanted a smaller police presence, compared to just 13 percent who felt respected.

                              The widespread support for larger police presence overall follows more general polling trends apparent since the start of protests surrounding the death of Minneapolis resident George Floyd. Large majorities of Americans report trusting their local police departments.

                              Almost as many consistently oppose the move to "defund" the police, perhaps explaining why many national Democrats, including presidential nominee Joe Biden, have been loath to publicly support the movement. Even in Minneapolis, many black residents oppose efforts to defund—a stark departure from the views of the majority-white city council.
                              Not surprised. The entire BLM 'Defund/Abolish the Police' cry is nothing more than them trying to remove the roadblocks to their marxist policies being implemented..

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