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Four in Five Black Americans Want Same or More Cop Presence in Neighborhood

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  • #16
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Sure, let's go for it. With roughly 80% of blacks opposed to the idea this should be an eye-opener for the radical left. Then of course, they aren't putting these things up for a vote but rather are making the decision for those they think are not smart enough to make the "right" choice.
    That does agree with an article I saw a couple weeks ago in my local newspaper indicating strong support for police presents in the local black neighborhoods. I'm really getting the sense that BLM is an elitist (and I won't surprise me that it's mostly whites) attempting to impose their values on the black community.
    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
      And her name is mossrose.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Sure, let's go for it. With roughly 80% of blacks opposed to the idea this should be an eye-opener for the radical left. Then of course, they aren't putting these things up for a vote but rather are making the decision for those they think are not smart enough to make the "right" choice.
        Blacks aren't opposed to the idea, you just don't understand what the idea behind the slogan is.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Blacks aren't opposed to the idea, you just don't understand what the idea behind the slogan is.
          When blacks find out what the agenda of the BLM is, they are not supportive. They are supportive of the concept that BLM is falsely claiming to represent.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
            That does agree with an article I saw a couple weeks ago in my local newspaper indicating strong support for police presents in the local black neighborhoods. I'm really getting the sense that BLM is an elitist (and I won't surprise me that it's mostly whites) attempting to impose their values on the black community.
            Perhaps I should have been clearer. I was noting that 80% of blacks are opposed to a police presence being lessened or even removed from their neighborhoods.

            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Perhaps I should have been clearer. I was noting that 80% of blacks are opposed to a police presence being lessened or even removed from their neighborhoods.
              And I'm agreeing with you.

              I'm trying to say it's looking to me like BLM is an elitist attempt to change society as they see fit and not what the people actually affected would want.
              "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

              "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                And her name is mossrose.
                That's why I get paid the big bucks around here.



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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                  And I'm agreeing with you.

                  I'm trying to say it's looking to me like BLM is an elitist attempt to change society as they see fit and not what the people actually affected would want.
                  BLM is simply a Marxist agenda wrapped up in black skin.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    BLM is simply a Marxist agenda wrapped up in black skin.
                    Who they are or what their ideology is, is irrelevant to whether or not they are correct on a particular issue such as police abuse of power. Your attempt to confuse the issue of police abuse, and injustice, with BLM ideology is irrelevant. BLM doesn't represent all the people who agree with them on this issue, that's just how you like think of and present it. Makes you feel better about supporting police abuse, stormtroopers and injustice, I guess.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      Who they are or what their ideology is, is irrelevant to whether or not they are correct on a particular issue such as police abuse of power. Your attempt to confuse the issue of police abuse, and injustice, with BLM ideology is irrelevant. BLM doesn't represent all the people who agree with them on this issue, that's just how you like think of and present it. Makes you feel better about supporting police abuse, stormtroopers and injustice, I guess.
                      The point is that BLM isn't really interested in black lives, they merely seek to exploit the situation for their own purposes. To advance they're radical Marxist agenda and nothing more.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        The point is that BLM isn't really interested in black lives, they merely seek to exploit the situation for their own purposes. To advance they're radical Marxist agenda and nothing more.
                        Then don't worry about BLM, it's a free country they can believe whatever they want. This isn't about the BLM organization or Marxism, it's about police abuse, injustice and reform.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Who they are or what their ideology is, is irrelevant to whether or not they are correct on a particular issue such as police abuse of power.
                          What a profoundly ignorant statement.

                          Your attempt to confuse the issue of police abuse, and injustice, with BLM ideology is irrelevant. BLM doesn't represent all the people who agree with them on this issue, that's just how you like think of and present it. Makes you feel better about supporting police abuse, stormtroopers and injustice, I guess.
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                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JimL View Post
                            Then don't worry about BLM, it's a free country they can believe whatever they want. This isn't about the BLM organization or Marxism, it's about police abuse, injustice and reform.
                            They are part of this whole riot situation that you support in your little anti-police tirades.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              A separate poll from last year confirms this one. Vox and Civis Analytics conducted a poll that found, by a more than two to one margin, black Americans support the police and 60% of them want more police hired.



                              It should also be noted that a Gallup poll from a few years ago actually found that black adults who felt that the police treated black people unfairly were more likely to want an increased police presence than those who said they felt they were treated fairly

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                A separate poll from last year confirms this one. Vox and Civis Analytics conducted a poll that found, by a more than two to one margin, black Americans support the police and 60% of them want more police hired.

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                                It should also be noted that a Gallup poll from a few years ago actually found that black adults who felt that the police treated black people unfairly were more likely to want an increased police presence than those who said they felt they were treated fairly
                                I don't question this poll. It makes sense to me that blacks overall value the enforcement of the law.

                                It's important to consider the entire picture rather than selectively tout that which only accords with your views while dismissing similarly revealing polls that confirm a deep-seated problem that you and your ideological peers adamantly deny, like this pre-George Floyd poll from the Pew Research center:

                                https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019...tm_medium=copy

                                Some key uncomfortable takeaways:

                                This quote in particular says much about the creepy things members like seer here have no compunction about saying since Trump took office:

                                So I guess one poll is legit and the other is a commie plot to put Trump-supporting Christians in concentration camps.
                                Last edited by whag; 08-08-2020, 11:02 AM.

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