Chicago police return fire as looters hit Mag Mile

[Cow Poke]

Chicago police return fire as looters hit Mag Mile, smashing windows and confronting officers

More chaos and mayhem....

[seer]

Chicago police return fire as looters hit Mag Mile, smashing windows and confronting officers

Is this going to happen every time a possible bad guy is shot? If so, we are in real trouble as a society...

[Cow Poke]

Is this going to happen every time a possible bad guy is shot? If so, we are in real trouble as a society...

No need to "defund the police" - simply overwhelm them with flash mobs.

Reportedly, there were caravans of cars bringing in looters to the various store locations. Then Chicago's Mayor appeared on TV begging for citizens to rat each other out.

[seer]

Then Chicago's Mayor appeared on TV begging for citizens to rat each other out.

You mean Beetle Juice

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[Sparko]

The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't do anything then they are "allowing rioting" and if they do fight back or even shoot, then they are being "fascists" and "brown shirts"

[Cow Poke]

The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't do anything then they are "allowing rioting" and if they do fight back or even shoot, then they are being "fascists" and "brown shirts"

And it's all in the name of 'protecting the peaceful protesters' --- many cannot see there is nothing peaceful about many of the protests they are defending.

[rogue06]

The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't do anything then they are "allowing rioting" and if they do fight back or even shoot, then they are being "fascists" and "brown shirts"

For decades you'd have various self-appointed community activists complain about police harassment resulting in the police pulling back on enforcement. This would inevitably lead to the exact same bunch complaining that the police don't care about black neighborhood because they aren't enforcing the laws. So the police start enforcing the laws again which inevitably leads to them complaining about harassment.

Over and over the cycle is repeated.

[oxmixmudd]

And it's all in the name of 'protecting the peaceful protesters' --- many cannot see there is nothing peaceful about many of the protests they are defending.

I've not seen anyone calling what was happening in Chicago this morning 'a peaceful protest'. Have you? I've seen every source I've looked at so far call it rioting or vandalism. I've seen the perpetrators called vandals and looters.

[oxmixmudd]

For decades you'd have various self-appointed community activists complain about police harassment resulting in the police pulling back on enforcement. This would inevitably lead to the exact same bunch complaining that the police don't care about black neighborhood because they aren't enforcing the laws. So the police start enforcing the laws again which inevitably leads to them complaining about harassment.

Over and over the cycle is repeated.

There are very real misleading statements and perceptions coming from both sides. There are actions that are illegal that are being treated as 'misunderstood', criminals being hurt by legitimate law enforcement actions that are labeled as 'abuse', AND there is legitimate abuse being dismissed, real oppression being ignored or whitewashed over. And as long one or both sides refuse to be honest about what is real, the insanity will continue.

[Cow Poke]

I've not seen anyone calling what was happening in Chicago this morning 'a peaceful protest'. Have you?

That's the point - there's nothing peaceful about this, or what's been happening elsewhere in the country.

I've seen every source I've looked at so far call it rioting or vandalism. I've seen the perpetrators called vandals and looters.

Finally.

[Leonhard]

That's the point - there's nothing peaceful about this, or what's been happening elsewhere in the country.

So you deny that there have been several peaceful protests? Including the ones my friends attended?

[Cow Poke]

So you deny that there have been several peaceful protests? Including the ones my friends attended?

Of course not, Leon --- we've been through this. The peaceful protests are clearly differentiated from the non-peaceful ones by the actual presence of peace, and non-proximity to riots.

[rogue06]

So you deny that there have been several peaceful protests? Including the ones my friends attended?

Of course not, Leon --- we've been through this. The peaceful protests are clearly differentiated from the non-peaceful ones by the actual presence of peace, and non-proximity to riots.

I'll bring this up from another thread

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I think that one of the problems has been that a good number of the peaceful protesters see nothing wrong with aiding and abetting the violent riders. It's the new radical chic thing to do in order to be cool.

Need an example? Look at all the protesters who participate in using a sea of umbrellas to block the view of the police so that they can't see what the bad apples are up to. Look at how they quickly open up a gap so that someone can use a slingshot to propel things like rocks and canned goods at bone-breaking if not lethal velocities, and then just as quickly close the gap so that the perpetrator can run off and blend in with the crowd.

Those doing this are willfully aiding those who want to do violence to accomplish it.

The only viable defense is to claim that these umbrella brigades aren't part of the peaceful protesters either. But that causes another problem. Given the size of these groups if they aren't peaceful protesters then you can't keep pretending that those out there committing violent acts are a tiny fraction. No, now you'd have to admit that they are a sizable part of the mob.

Again, doesn't anyone find it odd that you almost never see this sort of thing when conservatives protest, but when liberals protest it isn't a matter of "if" but "when" will it evolve into looting and rioting.

The rioters feel comfortable blending in with those at liberal protests -- something they obviously don't feel with conservatives. That's because they know that they won't receive assistance from a conservative crowd whereas they can count on it from a liberal one (the umbrella brigades are just one example).

I mean, look at all of the Tea Party protests from a few years back. No burning cars and buildings. No looted stores. In fact, it was common to hear about how when they left they actually left it cleaner than it was before they arrived. In not one case was there anybody asking for money to help repair the damage after the "peaceful" protest like they did after what the left insisted was peaceful in Minneapolis yet the local government wants half a billion dollars to help rebuild afterwards.

[Gondwanaland]

I'll bring this up from another thread
Again, doesn't anyone find it odd that you almost never see this sort of thing when conservatives protest, but when liberals protest it isn't a matter of "if" but "when" will it evolve into looting and rioting.

The rioters feel comfortable blending in with those at liberal protests -- something they obviously don't feel with conservatives. That's because they know that they won't receive assistance from a conservative crowd whereas they can count on it from a liberal one (the umbrella brigades are just one example).

I mean, look at all of the Tea Party protests from a few years back. No burning cars and buildings. No looted stores. In fact, it was common to hear about how when they left they actually left it cleaner than it was before they arrived. In not one case was there anybody asking for money to help repair the damage after the "peaceful" protest like they did after what the left insisted was peaceful in Minneapolis yet the local government wants half a billion dollars to help rebuild afterwards.

Yep every time I hear someone saying these are peaceful protests, my mind immediately goes to the Tea Party protests and all of the• Edited by a Moderator • they got from the left, all of the name calling and derision, and the fact that those actually were truly peaceful protests (which may be why the left despised them so much as they are seemingly incapable of peaceful protests)

[Sparko]

Black Lives Matter Chicago organizer says looting is 'reparations'https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ys-looting-is/

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