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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ronson View Post
    That would be a good story. Hopefully someone will follow up on that soon because it will give the subject more depth.
    I have a busy morning - just having a quick cup of coffee - if things settle down, I might tackle that. There is at least one BILLION dollar company leaving, and several others planning on it. The dates for the first batch of news stories were mid-June of this year, and the reason seemed to be, in part, that the local government could not keep their people and facilities safe, along with taxes...
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Businesses close stores all the time. It's a simple function of the capitalist system. Businesses fail, often. Sometimes due to mismanagement, sometimes a lack of customers, sometimes market forces, sometimes an economic downturn, etc.

      And when a business has to close, human psychology means that the business owner wants to place the blame on something other than himself as the cause. It was the fault of some other competitor undercutting him, or the fault of the market, or the fault of people shopping more at suburban malls and less in the downtown area, or the fault of his employees being bad, etc. True, or false, people will find something other than themselves to blame their business' failure on. The real cause of the closure is nearly always that the business was not making money, but determining why any specific business isn't making more money than it is, is immensely complicated. So instead of acknowledging the complex reality of "we weren't making enough money, and we're not really sure why, because it's complicated" the business owner will typically prefer to seize on something random (and external to themselves) and say that was the reason why they weren't making more money. But they're not necessarily at all right in their claims.

      In the OP we see a business closing, and the business owner blaming it on a bunch of things. That's not news. It's not something unusual. It's probably something that happens daily or even more often in a city the size of Seattle. And business owners' claims in general about why they closed the business are absolutely not to be trusted. So the OP is dumb... it bizarrely presents a single store closing as news, naively buys into all the different claims the business owner makes about why he did so, and seems to assume that a single business closing one store, constitutes some sort of massive business flight from the central city area. What idiocy.
      Nice rationalizing yourself there Starlight. I am sure the business owner knows why he is CHOOSING to close up shop in Seattle.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I have a busy morning - just having a quick cup of coffee - if things settle down, I might tackle that. There is at least one BILLION dollar company leaving, and several others planning on it. The dates for the first batch of news stories were mid-June of this year, and the reason seemed to be, in part, that the local government could not keep their people and facilities safe, along with taxes...
        Billion-dollar investment firm leaving Seattle amid 'unrest'
        The CEO of a billion-dollar investment firm said his company is getting out of Seattle just in time as residents accuse Mayor Jenny Durkan of letting the city's so-called Capitol Hill Occupied Protest get out of hand and turn deadly.

        "The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today," Smead Capital Management President Cole Smead told KTAR News on Monday.
        https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/se...ing-to-phoenix

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        Seattle business owner to leave city after 38 years: 'We have no leadership'
        A clothing store owner in Seattle said Wednesday he is moving his business of 38 years out of the city over what he described as “socialist” policies and a lack of leadership.

        Joey Rodolfo is the co-founder of Buki clothing, located less than a mile from the CHOP, or Capitol Hill Organized Protest zone, an area of Seattle that has devolved into chaos ever since protesters barred police from the area on June 8.

        Mr. Rodolfo said during an appearance on “Fox & Friends” that he plans to move his business out of Washington entirely over the Democratic leadership’s response to the situation, which had been to do nothing only until recently after a spate of shootings in the area.
        https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...o-leave-city-/

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        I'm leaving Seattle for Texas so my employees can be free: Billion dollar business owner
        I’m moving my business headquarters off the West Coast. We tried San Francisco. We tried the Seattle area. Both were wonderful in their own ways, especially in natural beauty and personal friendships. But both have become hostile to the principles and policies that enable people to live abundantly in the broadest sense.
        https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...employees-free

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Billion-dollar investment firm leaving Seattle amid 'unrest'
          The CEO of a billion-dollar investment firm said his company is getting out of Seattle just in time as residents accuse Mayor Jenny Durkan of letting the city's so-called Capitol Hill Occupied Protest get out of hand and turn deadly.

          "The unrest that has taken place in the city of Seattle … there is really is not a downtown business community today," Smead Capital Management President Cole Smead told KTAR News on Monday.
          https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/se...ing-to-phoenix

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          Seattle business owner to leave city after 38 years: 'We have no leadership'
          A clothing store owner in Seattle said Wednesday he is moving his business of 38 years out of the city over what he described as “socialist” policies and a lack of leadership.

          Joey Rodolfo is the co-founder of Buki clothing, located less than a mile from the CHOP, or Capitol Hill Organized Protest zone, an area of Seattle that has devolved into chaos ever since protesters barred police from the area on June 8.

          Mr. Rodolfo said during an appearance on “Fox & Friends” that he plans to move his business out of Washington entirely over the Democratic leadership’s response to the situation, which had been to do nothing only until recently after a spate of shootings in the area.
          https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...o-leave-city-/

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          I'm leaving Seattle for Texas so my employees can be free: Billion dollar business owner
          I’m moving my business headquarters off the West Coast. We tried San Francisco. We tried the Seattle area. Both were wonderful in their own ways, especially in natural beauty and personal friendships. But both have become hostile to the principles and policies that enable people to live abundantly in the broadest sense.
          https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...employees-free
          Those are some of the ones that popped up without any effort on my part.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Those are some of the ones that popped up without any effort on my part.
            If they don't turn this around, Seattle will become another Detroit, bankrupt.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              If they don't turn this around, Seattle will become another Detroit, bankrupt.
              One of the professors my wife works with at A&M has gotten quite wealthy buying up vacant lots in Detroit and building houses on them. They will focus on an abandoned neighborhood (of which there are many) then their consortium will start buying up lots REALLY CHEAPLY.

              The only problem they've had has been vandalism from union thugs, because they're using local labor instead of union labor.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Maybe it's just you whose insane? Seems vastly more likely to me.
                Of course that is exactly what a mentally ill leftist would say.
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Maybe it's just you whose insane? Seems vastly more likely to me.
                  .... ' who's insane '... I get those mixed up on occasion myself.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Did they try to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs and the goose flew the coop?
                    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                    • #25
                      Apparently businesses and people are leaving New York at an alarming rate also.

                      A mad rush for the exits as New York City goes down the tubes

                      It’s not just a few Upper West Siders who are fleeing New York: Moving companies say they’re swamped with calls from residents looking to ditch the city — even though the COVID crisis has waned.

                      One likely reason: The virus was but the last straw; New Yorkers are fed up with the shootings and lootings, homelessness on the streets, sub-par online schools, sky-high taxes and the sheer obliviousness of pols like Mayor Bill de Blasio and Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

                      https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/a-mad-...own-the-tubes/

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Apparently businesses and people are leaving New York at an alarming rate also.

                        A mad rush for the exits as New York City goes down the tubes

                        It’s not just a few Upper West Siders who are fleeing New York: Moving companies say they’re swamped with calls from residents looking to ditch the city — even though the COVID crisis has waned.

                        One likely reason: The virus was but the last straw; New Yorkers are fed up with the shootings and lootings, homelessness on the streets, sub-par online schools, sky-high taxes and the sheer obliviousness of pols like Mayor Bill de Blasio and Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

                        https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/a-mad-...own-the-tubes/
                        I think they're trying to be like the city named after on of their nicknames.... Then again, Gotham from DC Comics is the bad parts of a big city exaggerated to the nth degree.
                        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          Seattle business owners close shop as city moves to defund police: 'Safety became paramount'

                          https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...-defund-police
                          And this is on the heels of businesses being forced to shutdown or cut back employee hours when Seattle raised its minimum wage.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                            Then again, Gotham from DC Comics is the bad parts of a big city exaggerated to the nth degree.
                            I don't know, man, Gotham City as depicted in the Arkham video games isn't too far from pictures I've seen of the devastation left in the wake of peaceful protests.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              I don't know, man, Gotham City as depicted in the Arkham video games isn't too far from pictures I've seen of the devastation left in the wake of peaceful protests.
                              I know that "I don't know, man" is an expression, bit it still sounds funny. I still have zero Y chromosomes. We still lack the fantastical elements of the Batman comics.
                              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                                I know that "I don't know, man" is an expression, bit it still sounds funny. I still have zero Y chromosomes. We still lack the fantastical elements of the Batman comics.
                                Give it time. Give it time.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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